Posted on 04/03/2007 7:14:38 AM PDT by Mershon
The Holy Spirit gives us gifts in baptism/confirmation to use for the upbuilding of the Church. Some of those gifts are more noticeable than others, but as Paul in Corinthians says, they are all vital and part of the same body. Teaching, prophecy, administration, generosity, tongues, gifts of healing, interpretation of tongues. Love and obedience should be at the core of each.
This is an excellent book about the Holy Spirit within the life of the Church by Catholic author Alan Schreck (no, not the green Shrek he he...). http://www.amazon.com/Hearts-Aflame-Spirit-Heart-Christian/dp/0892839198/ref=sr_1_8/002-2945002-6828062?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1175620924&sr=1-8
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Subject: Holy Thursday Seder Meal
Dear Ave Maria Community,
After the Holy Thursday Mass, April 5, at 8pm, there will be a Seder Meal in the Ark of the Covenant Cafeteria. The invitation is limited to Ave Maria Students, Faculty, Staff, and their families. This Seder Meal will be a Christianized celebration of the Passover meal Christ ate throughout his life and for the last time with the apostles in the upper room. This is NOT a Communion service, nor is it meant to be. We are remembering the Jewish tradition so that we can grow closer to the Jewish Carpenter who gives his life for our salvation.
A full meal is incorporated into the celebration in addition to the ritual foods eaten. Students on the meal plan can eat the Seder meal as their Thursday night dinner. Faculty, Staff, & Families are asked for a free-will-offering of $5 per adult and $3 per child to help defer the cost.
Please RSVP outside Student Life in the Ark BY WEDNESDAY, APRIL 4, 2007.
Parents: When you sign up, please include the name of your youngest child that could read the “four questions” in the Seder Meal. A copy of what he/she would be reading is below. Traditionally, this part is given to the youngest attendee.
Any questions/comments, please see Ruth Moses or Donna Rittereiser in the Chaplain’s office. Thank you.
The Four Questions:
Question #1
Why is this night different from all other nights? On all other nights, we eat either leavened or unleavened bread. Why, on this night, do we eat only unleavened bread?
Question #2
On all other nights we eat all kinds of herbs. Why, on this night, do we eat especially bitter herbs?
Question #3
On all other nights we do not dip herbs in any condiment.
Why, on this night, do we dip them in salt water and haroses?
Question #4
On all other nights, we eat without special festivities.
Why, on this night, do we hold this Passover service?”
Condemned by Councils and St. Thomas Aquinas, doctor of the Church.
We have this thing called Holy Thursday, the washing of the feet and the Holy Sacrifice of the Mass.
I am not Jewish and therefore would refuse to participate in Jewish religious rituals and customs.
Catholics have enough of their own to use that emphasize the sacrifice of the Cross.
Again, General Councils and St. Thomas have both authoritatively condemned such practices.
As far as holding it on Parish property, the USCCB has said "This practice can have educational and spiritual value." and "The primary reason why Christians may celebrate the festival of Passover should be to acknowledge common roots in the history of salvation." (God's Mercy Endures Forever)
Please make citation's when you make your claims.
People who love Latin more than the Church are trying to make this a Charismatic vs. Traditional battle, which it is not.
Tom Monoghan is a control freak and Fr. Fessio probably exercised a little too much independence (but not much). That is why he is fired. You cannot work for Tommy and exercise independent judgment. This is why Fessio was required to kill Campion College before going to work for the man. There are no clean hands between the two of them.
The USCCB has absolutely no authority whatsoever for Catholics.
I follow my bishop, the Holy See and the Tradition of the Church, including all the General Councils, to the mind of the Church.
Frankly, I could care less what the USCCCCCCCCCCB says about anything.
People who love Latin more than the Church are trying to make this a Charismatic vs. Traditional battle, which it is not.
LOL!!!!!! Quite funny. I guess this a caricature. I merely reported what was told me.
More than a dozen other in depth interviews will get into more details, however, Traditionalist students are NOT welcome at AMU unless they conform to Nick Healy’s warped liturgical version of Catholicism.
Whatever you do, use ad hominem attacks and don’t deal with the content. Much easier to do, I understand.
Somehow I don’t think Christ wants us to knocking each other over the head on Holy Thursday about this. I am not aware of anything in the Councils, dogmatic or pastoral, which condemns these private non-liturgical meals. If you have a link, post it. If you are personally against it, that’s fine - it’s neither sacramental nor a Catholic requirement.
David Wendell - good point and info, but no need for the ad hominem jab.
What say we focus on the Triduum now and get back to this another time? Have a holy Easter weekend.
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