Gun-control ruling affirms the Confederacy

tcpalm.com ^ | March 28, 2007 | JOSH HORWITZ

[stand watie]

in other words, you know i'm tactically CORRECT, but don't have the GUTS to agree???

laughing AT your SILLY response.

it must be TOUGH to be "the leader of the DY coven"!!!

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[stand watie]

well, as a longtime former LEO & military “master riflery instructor” & "range officer", may i simply say that a “sawed off shotgun” is better than nothing to defend yourself with, but a M-14 or a 1911A1 is a GREAT DEAL more effective???

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[TC Rider]

No argument here. Funny how things work out, they felt a sawed off shotgun was not appropriate for the military, now the 14” barrel is preferred by law enforcement.

[Bubba Ho-Tep]

had VA not ratified secession, the CSA would surely have allowed VA to remain INDEPENDENT of BOTH the USA & CSA, as they currently were.

So you're saying that if the people of Virginia voted against secession, they'd still have been out of the union because of the actions of the secession convention?

[Revenge of Sith]

“broke with all other federal circuits by holding that a gun-control statute violated the Second Amendment.”

I’m not sure this is correct. While courts have upheld certain gun control laws, I don’t think they ever addressed the issue of banning handguns. DC’s law is more extreme than everywhere else.

[Bubba Ho-Tep]

one wonders how many INNOCENT civilians...

One also wonders how many dead the south would have considered it worth sacrificing if they had won their rebellion. How many people was independence worth killing?

[Non-Sequitur]

in other words, you know i'm tactically CORRECT, but don't have the GUTS to agree???

No, it means that your post on this subject is as idiotic as your posts always are. That once again you are pulling stuff out of your butt and presenting them as fact.

[stand watie]

after 28 years as a LEO (city,county,state,Army MP officer & as a SDUSM) i cannot recall EVER seeing anyone with a 14" barreled shotgun, with the exception of DUSM's moving prisoners to a place of detention/confinement. (the so-called "witness protection" Model 870 Remington is a hand-FULL & is about as UNpleasant on one end as the other!!!)

18" or 20" inch barrels are the rule, when i comes to RIOT GUNS.

make mine an Ithaca Featherweight Model 37 pump-gun, with 20" barrel (loaded with 2 3/4" short magnum,#1 Buck) & 8 shot mag!!!

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[stand watie]

the state of Virginia was an INDEPENDENT NATION after secession from the union. had the vote to join the CSA failed, Virginia would have tried to "go it alone", imVho.

fyi, VA at the time had it's own army (small), marine corps (small= 2 company size units) and navy (really small = less than 5 SMALL vessels total).

COL Robert E. Lee was CIC of the Virginia military forces & would have likely remained so, had Virginia chosen NOT to become a CSA state.

MAJ Thomas " (NOT yet, "Stonewall") Jackson was, FIRST, the "Superintendent of Instruction" for the VA military forces,ably assisted by the faculty & entire cadet corps of VMI.

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[stand watie]

well, certainly NO INTENTIONAL deaths TEN of THOUSANDS of UNarmed/innocent civilians & starved/tortured/murdered POWs, for sure!!!

tell us how many THOUSAND innocents would YOU have slaughtered to "preserve the union" of the UNWILLING,(if you were POTUS in 1861) "bubba, the TROLL"???

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[stand watie]

laughing AT your silly UNreasponsive answer AND at YOU.

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[TC Rider]

Maybe they’re just more popular north of Charlotte.

[Bubba Ho-Tep]

the state of Virginia was an INDEPENDENT NATION after secession from the union. had the vote to join the CSA failed, Virginia would have tried to "go it alone", imVho.

You really need to learn to read. The referendum held on May 23 was NOT over whether to join the CSA. It was over whether or not to ratify secession. But the fact that the citizens of Virginia had not yet voted on secession didn't stop the rebels from joining the confederacy. In other words, acording to their own secession document, they were still in the union when they entered into a confederation, kept troops and ships of war, and generally violated a number of provisons of Article 1, Section 10 of the United States Constitution.

[Non-Sequitur]

laughing AT your silly UNreasponsive answer AND at YOU.

Oh woe is me! How can I live with your scorn? </sarcasm>

[stand watie]

i don't know the answer to that one.

when i was stationed in WI & in northern NY (BRRRRRRRRRRRRR!!!) the state police were using 18-20 inch barreled riot-guns.

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[stand watie]

i know that you just cannot admit that you're EVER wrong about ANYTHING.

in your opinion, though NOT in the opinion of everyone else, you're an acknowledged EXPERT on ALL subjects.

it's called being a "know all".

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[stand watie]

in other words, you don't understand "WHAT IF" scenarios.

nobody here is surprised that you have a thinking/reading comprehension "problem" and/or that you're a clueLESS little TROLL.

can you tell us all EXACTLY how long VA was OUT of the union before they actually/officially joined the CSA???

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[Bubba Ho-Tep]

Read it again, dolt. The vote wasn't over whether to join the CSA. It was over whether to secede at all. Except Virginia had already joined the CSA before it allowed its people to decide if they wanted to secede at all.

can you tell us all EXACTLY how long VA was OUT of the union before they actually/officially joined the CSA???

You've got it backwards. Ask how long Virginia was in the CSA before the citizens ratified secession and the answer is 16 days. Virginia joined the CSA on May 7. Its citizens voted to ratify secession on May 23.

In fact, in the OR you can find the agreement between Virginia and the CSA government that puts Virginia's armed forces under CSA command before they'd formally seceded.

First: Until the union of said Commonwealth with said Confederacy shall be perfected and said Commonwealth shall become a member of the said Confederacy according to the consitutions of both powers, the whole military force and military operations, offensive and defensive, of said Commonwealth in the impending conflict with the United States shall be under the chief control and direction of the President of said Confederate States... (Approved by the VA Secession Convention, April 25, 1861 Source: OR, Series IV, Vol. 1, pg. 243)

So, ask how long Virginia's armed forces had been under Confederate command before its citizens were allowed to vote on secession and the answer is "nearly a month."

[Non-Sequitur]

i know that you just cannot admit that you're EVER wrong about ANYTHING.

Oh I have no problem admitting I'm wrong. But to date you have never been able to produce anything to show where I'm incorrect.

[stand watie]

fine.

now, BUZZ OFF back to DU, TROLL.

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