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FDA finds another poison in the recalled Pet Food -Presser @ 10:00 am EDT
Pet Connection.com and Pittsburgh Tribune-Review ^ | Friday March 30, 2007 | Milwaukee_Guy

Posted on 03/30/2007 6:23:02 AM PDT by Milwaukee_Guy

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To: Milwaukee_Guy

The poison and other such harmful substances that have been discovered in these pet foods sounds like sabotage. If, in fact, it is sabotage, the next questions are why and by who?

Some of the possibilities include - sabotage a competitor, short a stock, experiment with a food supply to see how you could use the food supply chain as an instrument of terror?


61 posted on 03/30/2007 9:14:29 AM PDT by khnyny
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To: HereInTheHeartland
Be very careful when buying food items, human or pet, from 3rd world countries

A big question is, how are consumers supposed to know which "ingredients" in foods come from third world countries? I try to buy organic. More expensive but at least I have an idea of the origin of the food. But if buy, say, a tv dinner, how would I have any idea where the ingredients (like wheat gluten) came from? Maybe the manufacturers should be required to tell us.

62 posted on 03/30/2007 9:15:43 AM PDT by New Girl
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To: Milwaukee_Guy
Related link....

Melamine in pet food, wheat gluten from China : FDA

63 posted on 03/30/2007 9:15:55 AM PDT by mewzilla (Property must be secured or liberty cannot exist. John Adams)
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To: Milwaukee_Guy

It's not just the wheat. They use euthanized animals for dog food. That means if the animal was sick and being treated with drugs, that is all in the food. It has been going on for years and is finally catching up with these slimeball companies.


64 posted on 03/30/2007 9:18:45 AM PDT by 1000 silverlings ("The Bible is the rock on which our Republic rests." Andrew Jackson, President of U.S.)
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To: 1000 silverlings

Slimeball companies do slimy things with human food too, it's not just petfood companies. The lack of inspections in the meat industry are appalling, not to mention GMO's (genetically modified organisms), cloned food (coming soon), etc.


65 posted on 03/30/2007 9:48:29 AM PDT by khnyny
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To: HereInTheHeartland
Be very careful when buying food items, human or pet, from 3rd world countries.

Bears repeating. I used to be of the mindset that said "i'll avoid buying Chinese unless there's no other option." I'm starting to wonder if "I won't buy Chinese, period" and doing without if there's no option isn't a better strategy.
66 posted on 03/30/2007 10:02:27 AM PDT by Old_Mil (Duncan Hunter in 2008! A Veteran, A Patriot, A Reagan Republican... http://www.gohunter08.com/)
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To: khnyny

Yes, I agree, tip of the iceberg.


67 posted on 03/30/2007 10:38:50 AM PDT by 1000 silverlings ("The Bible is the rock on which our Republic rests." Andrew Jackson, President of U.S.)
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To: Old_Mil

It's a real eye opener to look at packaging.

Take a look at StarKist and other tunas in the can and the new packages...........I think it's Thailand or some other place. I don't buy anything these days without inspecting the packaging, where it comes from etc.....read the small print.

Someone gave me this info the other day.

This is simply the best dry manufactured. - shipped direct from mfg.

http://www.balancediet.com/

You must keep unused pouches frozen - no preservatives.

For the best diet period - BARF your animal. http://www.barfworld.com/

Rocket fuel ... http://www.greentripe.com/

I find most "pet" owners too cheap to take total responsibility for their animals well being - this stuff is pricy compared to the junk most animals are fed.

Do you really love your animal or is it just a fashion statement?

Here is a link to a pic of my 10 1/2 year old GSD who had been on these 3 items most of his life. http://www.mysafetyofprincipal.com/ according to his vet @ 116 lbs he was the equivalent of a 110 year old human at this time.


Also I looked up Dick Van Patten's food and lucky enough one of the vets here in my small town stocks it. Google that for info.


68 posted on 03/30/2007 1:50:25 PM PDT by WestCoastGal (Dale Jr~ 5-31-07 ~ MIDNIGHT GIT-R-DONE --- Member of the F-I-R-M)
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To: WestCoastGal

This is a response to the CEO of Menu Foods posted at http://dogblog.dogster.com/

As you read through this piece you’ll notice that Henderson takes absolutely NO BLAME for the injuries to and deaths of what now appear to be thousands of pets. Instead, he keeps falling back on that old corporate tactic of claiming to have run the business by current industry standards.

Maybe Menu did keep to the letter of the law. But how is routinely buying food materials from a country with sub par storage and shipment processes of those processes keeping with the spirit of the law? It is no secret that Chinese food production and storage safety is not in line with North American expectations. I’m not being racist or judgemental here. I’m being factual. We’re talking food here, human and pet. Food. Not plastic geegaws, clothes or anything else that stays outside of the body. FOOD.

Maybe different toxins are showing up because there ARE different toxins in the wheat. Could it be that there are more than one or two poisons in the Chinese wheat and gluten Menu imported?

And yes, I understand that Menu and other similar companies are not required to test for melamine or other dangerous but relatively rare contaminants. Why not? Because the North American public expectation is that these kinds of companies will take reasonable care in where they get their products. Did Menu take reasonable care? I am not a food professional but it sure doesn’t look that way to me.

It looks to me that Menu Foods went to the cheapest source possible and went right past local and regional suppliers which had more expensive and safer food stocks. That’s like your local restaurant looking for the cheapest suppliers of meat and fish to keep their costs down. They might be cheaper but do you really want to eat there?

And Dogsters have barked in reminding us this issue is not and should not be about cost. Just because one person feeds a less expensive food is no reason for them to expect that all they can get is questionable food. When you walk into a less expensive restaurant, do you expect to put your life in danger with unsafe food? I’d hope not. You expect you won’t be eating expensive cuts of meat or caviar but you don’t expect your $6 meal to put you in the hospital or kill you. The same should be said for pet food. Cheaper may not be the absolutely tastiest but it should not be dangerous!


69 posted on 03/30/2007 2:03:24 PM PDT by WestCoastGal (Dale Jr~ 5-31-07 ~ MIDNIGHT GIT-R-DONE --- Member of the F-I-R-M)
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To: WestCoastGal

Thanks for the information. I'm currently feeding my dog Wysong dry, but apparently even Wysong used Menu Foods for two of their canned products which makes me wonder how much I can trust their dry food.


70 posted on 03/30/2007 2:04:36 PM PDT by Old_Mil (Duncan Hunter in 2008! A Veteran, A Patriot, A Reagan Republican... http://www.gohunter08.com/)
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To: EnquiringMind
I think I am going to make my own cat food.

No matter how long I cook them they come out tough.

And even the fattest cat doesn't dress out to all that much meat.

71 posted on 03/30/2007 2:11:50 PM PDT by Dinsdale
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To: Old_Mil

It's just personally disgusting to me that we can't even trust what we buy anymore. I always bought what I thought was the best dog food. Friends of mine have even said I take better care of my dog than myself. Although I have never bought canned dog food.

I used to have a dog that did love those Little Caesar packages, but the vet told me they were too rich.

I have been reading and re-reading a package of Iams dog biscuits that I have bought for years because they don't preserve with BHA or BHT. I don't even trust those anymore.

I do have recipes somewhere for dog biscuits, guess I better get busy. :)


72 posted on 03/30/2007 2:12:37 PM PDT by WestCoastGal (Dale Jr~ 5-31-07 ~ MIDNIGHT GIT-R-DONE --- Member of the F-I-R-M)
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To: WestCoastGal

I don't know if anyone shops at Trader Joe's, I used to when I lived in California and I MISS them here in Texas.......but their food seems to be on the ok list.



Two Pet Food Brands not affiliated with Menu Foods-by Eli
Only two manufacturers/brands of Pet Food have surfaced that are not affiliated with Menu Foods in any way.

Bench and Field whose holistic foods are sold at Trader Joe's and Whole Foods.

http://theportnoygroup.typepad.com/my_weblog/ This guy is going to try and find out who the dry food company is that may be affected.


73 posted on 03/30/2007 2:15:35 PM PDT by WestCoastGal (Dale Jr~ 5-31-07 ~ MIDNIGHT GIT-R-DONE --- Member of the F-I-R-M)
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To: WestCoastGal
It's just personally disgusting to me that we can't even trust what we buy anymore.

Tell me about it. I've had my dogs for a while - one passed back in December unexpectedly, the other is doing well. Like you, I take care of them as if they were my kids. The other issue is that with this going on with pet food, how much can we trust human food? I've made a conscious effort to move away from pre-packaged foods in the grocery store as a result.
74 posted on 03/30/2007 2:20:23 PM PDT by Old_Mil (Duncan Hunter in 2008! A Veteran, A Patriot, A Reagan Republican... http://www.gohunter08.com/)
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There is a list here of all the foods that are NOT on the recall list..........and a lot of eye opening information such as Whole Foods not commenting "When asked, they would neither admit or deny that Menu Foods is their manufacturer - the name(s) of their manufacturer(s) is “confidential.”

Also on this list is which products contain wehat gluten period!

LINK

75 posted on 03/30/2007 2:23:20 PM PDT by WestCoastGal (Dale Jr~ 5-31-07 ~ MIDNIGHT GIT-R-DONE --- Member of the F-I-R-M)
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To: WestCoastGal
I do have recipes somewhere for dog biscuits, guess I better get busy. :)

I used a recipe and made a bunch of dog biscuits not too long ago. They are easy to make, they keep well in a storage container, they are much CHEAPER than store bought and best of all, you know exactly what the ingredients are.

76 posted on 03/30/2007 2:25:40 PM PDT by New Girl
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To: sweetiepiezer
Data base of this site, now totals, 2,400 dead pets.
http://www.petconnection.com/

Update 3/30: More than 2,400 pets have been reported as deceased to our PetConnection database.

I have a problem with this type of unqualified reporting.
Guaranteed to raise everyone's anxiety level, specially the ignorant.

Over what period of time was this figure generated?

What is the "normal" rate of pet deaths when there is no "pet food" crisis?

Without those answers, things are reduced to mindless emotionalism.
Yes, I own both a dog and a cat. Both rescues and unremarkable, but quite healthy and happy so far.

77 posted on 03/30/2007 2:33:08 PM PDT by Publius6961 (MSM: Israelis are killed by rockets; Lebanese are killed by Israelis.)
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To: snarkytart

Way under reporting the number that have died.


78 posted on 03/30/2007 2:34:44 PM PDT by Arizona Carolyn
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To: kittymyrib
Dogs and cats shoudn't even have wheat anything in their diets... if they are cutting these corners with a cheap ingredient like wheat, what about the meat they are using, how many people actually know what has been in their pets food for a long time.... pay more for food and pay less at the vet is a good rule of thumb.

What's Really In Pet Food

79 posted on 03/30/2007 2:39:12 PM PDT by Arizona Carolyn
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To: New Girl

This site http://www.gothamist.com/2007/03/17/pet_food_recall.php is talking about people having pets sick from Iams dry food which is what I'm currently using. I guess you have to take all this which is unconfirmed with a grain of salt............but I would rather be safe than sorry, so out it goes.


80 posted on 03/30/2007 2:40:54 PM PDT by WestCoastGal (Dale Jr~ 5-31-07 ~ MIDNIGHT GIT-R-DONE --- Member of the F-I-R-M)
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