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Conservative think tank lends helping hand to Giuliani
Monterey Herald ^ | March 29, 2007 | William Douglas

Posted on 03/29/2007 11:57:32 AM PDT by FairOpinion

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To: ellery
The 'rat party's move to the hard left and the WoT has driven many middle of the road voters to the Republican party.

I'll admit, I'm just guessing...but Mr. Giuliani's front runner status among disparate groups within the Republican party and within differing regions of the country reflect the shifting demographics: the big city Northeastern "liberal", Rudy Giuliani is currently leading the polls in Alabama, for instance.

181 posted on 03/30/2007 9:05:40 AM PDT by aligncare (Beware the Media-Industrial Complex!)
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To: airborne
You can say Mr. Giuliani is a social liberal...I won't even argue that you are wrong, I promise.

But, to push the line that Mr. Giuliani cross dresses...Well, I'm going come out and call it a lie -- besides, that type of attack doesn't reflect well on those who oppose Mr. Giuliani if all they can do is make false assertions.

Let's just deal with substantive arguments.

182 posted on 03/30/2007 9:17:37 AM PDT by aligncare (Beware the Media-Industrial Complex!)
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To: aligncare
I have no problem saying that he is not a cross dresser.

But it was a major mistake to dress up like he did. As if he doesn't have enough problems.

Those pictures alone, with Trump pretending to cop a feel, disqualifies him as far as I'm concerned.

Can you imagine any other person getting a pass on this?

183 posted on 03/30/2007 9:24:26 AM PDT by airborne (Freedom is worth fighting for !! And I'm in a fighting mood !! HUNTER 2008 !)
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To: airborne
I have always hated the whole 'cabaret' dress up in drag thing. I find nothing amusing or redeeming about it.

But, I prefer to see what Mr. Giuliani did in those charity events was just self-deprication and revealed a good sense of humor -- that's all. I won't read any more than that into it.

184 posted on 03/30/2007 9:40:33 AM PDT by aligncare (Beware the Media-Industrial Complex!)
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To: aligncare
I won't read any more than that into it.

I wouldn't expect you to. Nor would I expect any Rudy supporter to.

185 posted on 03/30/2007 9:45:15 AM PDT by airborne (Freedom is worth fighting for !! And I'm in a fighting mood !! HUNTER 2008 !)
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To: airborne
I will grant you that my support for Mr. Giuliani is indeed situational. I perceive Mr. Giuliani as not just tough on terrorism, but VERY tough on terrorism. And I will freely admit I'm looking for a Commander-in-Chief, not a Commander-in-Preach.

These are tough times that try men's souls. I want someone as CIC who will push back hard against radical Islam.

It would be poetic justice for the mayor of the city that was hardest hit on 9-ll to lead the US forces that ultimately defeat the terrorists.

186 posted on 03/30/2007 9:58:21 AM PDT by aligncare (Beware the Media-Industrial Complex!)
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To: aligncare
I perceive Mr. Giuliani as not just tough on terrorism, but VERY tough on terrorism.

What, exactly, did he do for you to perceive this?

What did he do, specifically, after the WTC attack in 1993?

I acknowledge, he was an inspirational figure after 9/11, but I must also point out that the walkie-talkies the first responders used on 9/11/01 were the exact same type that they had in 1993. And we all know how ineffective those were.

Also, Rudy left office 3 1/2 months after 9/11. The lions share of work was done after he left.

I too am looking for a strong CIC. Preferably one with prior military service, considering the long term war we are facing.

187 posted on 03/30/2007 10:26:22 AM PDT by airborne (Freedom is worth fighting for !! And I'm in a fighting mood !! HUNTER 2008 !)
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To: FairOpinion

You think I'm living in a dream world; I think you're putting 'way, 'way too much stock in current polls. They are easily manipulated and provably transient. But for the sake of discussion, let's assume they're not being manipulated:

I'm confused about why you say only Rudy can beat Hillary, when your own polls show that both McCain and Rudy beat both Hillary and Obama in a head-to-head match-up. ??

Dou you believe that polling data on Fred Thompson is at all accurate at this point, since he only emerged as a potential candidate a couple of weeks ago, and hasn't even declared yet?

I am a fiscal/small government conservative, not a social conservative. I do believe Rudy is a fiscal conservative, but he is also a big-government authoritarian in many ways. So, despite his small government fiscal credentials, he's going to lose a lot of the small government crowd.

What do you make of this reality and fact: the Rudy supporters who are basing their vote on electability would almost certainly vote for anyone with an R after his name in the general election. Many non-Rudy supporters who are basing their vote on other issues will not vote for Rudy in the general election. So, a Romney or a Thompson candidate gets the votes of both non-Rudy crowd and the pro-Rudy electability crowd. A Rudy candidate only gets the latter.

Obviously I'm not suggesting we nominate someone who only appeals to conservatives (frankly, I have yet to see a universally acceptable definition of "conservative.") And if you think that Rudy's opposition think this election is just a game, then you aren't listening. I believe both Romney and Thompson are electable and have potential crossover appeal.


188 posted on 03/30/2007 10:31:08 AM PDT by ellery (Anyone who thinks he has a better idea of what's good for people than people do is a swine-PJORourke)
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To: airborne

I avidly oppose Rudy on Constitutional grounds. However, I will say that this business about him dressing up as a woman as a joke seems like much ado about nothing to me.


189 posted on 03/30/2007 10:41:16 AM PDT by ellery (Anyone who thinks he has a better idea of what's good for people than people do is a swine-PJORourke)
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To: ellery

I don't really care either.

It is telling, however, that his supporters are so defensive about it.


190 posted on 03/30/2007 10:44:39 AM PDT by airborne (Freedom is worth fighting for !! And I'm in a fighting mood !! HUNTER 2008 !)
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To: airborne
Why I perceive Mr. Giuliani as being tough:

He dared to prosecute the mob. He was in personal danger yet he persisted and got over 4000 convictions. It takes guts to do that.

During his administration he never backed down from confronting media lies and confronting community activists threats to disrupt the city.

He dissed Arafat at a time when Bill Clinton and everyone in the media was holding Arafat up as a serious agent of reconciliation -- instead of treating Arafat as the terrorist provocateur that he was.

Mr. Giuliani's public statements about his understanding of the threat that radical Islam poses to America and the West. I think Mr. Giuliani takes the WoT very seriously.

Yes, he is a social liberal. And one day America will become enlightened and there will be no more abortions, and everyone will carry a gun, and gays will cower in the closet once again.

191 posted on 03/30/2007 10:54:03 AM PDT by aligncare (Beware the Media-Industrial Complex!)
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To: FairOpinion
And Hillary won't be, when because of misguided votes we may end up with an unelectable Republican candidate, who gets beaten like a drum by Hillary?

Oh, Hillary is socially liberal too. That's why I support conservatives in the primary.

Can't you think two steps ahead and see the obvious?

I ask that same question of those who claim to be conservative but are supporting Rudy in the primary.

192 posted on 03/30/2007 1:21:59 PM PDT by MEGoody (Ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.)
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To: Porterville
don't vote... just stay home and smoke pot or whatever. I don't care. He will draw more votes than push away votes, so stay home.
I'm concerned about the war. He'll win the war and gainer support for the war. I put everything secondary to the war... gay stuff, abortion stuff, divorcee stuff , all secondary to the war.

So stay home. You vote is not needed. Every vote doesn't count this election when you have an overwhelming force like Guiliani.


Rudy will pull in enough Independent votes to make up for the sore losers who prefer to sit out the election.

193 posted on 03/30/2007 2:08:36 PM PDT by KATIE-O (Rudy Giuliani - Restoring Optimism in '08)
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To: WestVirginiaRebel
Number of Rudy Hater heads exploding this week (which might explain why there seem to be fewer of them ranting these days):


And counting...


lol, cute!

194 posted on 03/30/2007 2:10:37 PM PDT by KATIE-O (Rudy Giuliani - Restoring Optimism in '08)
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To: jmc813

Mayors of cities have no powers to enforce Federal immigration laws.

Are you going to advocate adherence to the Constitution or not?


195 posted on 03/30/2007 2:50:38 PM PDT by Luis Gonzalez (Some people see the world as they would want it to be, effective people see the world as it is.)
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