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WILL 2008 MEAN DOOM FOR REPUBLICANS?
boblonsberry.com ^ | 03/28/07 | Bob Lonsberry

Posted on 03/28/2007 5:37:45 AM PDT by shortstop

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To: shortstop

I agree. Or Duncan Hunter or Newt Gingrich.


121 posted on 03/28/2007 10:11:29 AM PDT by ZULU (Non nobis, non nobis Domine, sed nomini tuo da gloriam. God, guts and guns made America great.)
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To: NYC Republican

Okay, okay...fine. Just let it be known that Rudy is NOT the way to go. No way, no how. (Not that I'm saying you support Rudy)

As stated in someone elses post: Rudy will destroy this party if he's nominated...


122 posted on 03/28/2007 10:20:52 AM PDT by swatbuznik (Not Rudy)
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To: Brilliant
If the Dems win both houses of Congress and the White House, then we are headed for a one-party system.

We essentially have a one party system. Dems controlled the house for 40 years. Liberals controlled all levers of government from FDR forward, though occasssionaly with a moderate Republican at the helm. The Gingrich era takeover of the house attempted to unseat the ruling liberals, but floundered on the Clinton impeachment.

Bush 2 had an opportunity to make good on many Republican goals, but didn't.

Look for a return to the post-war (WWII) norm of Democrats and Liberal R's running everything, with Conservatives on the margin. Seeing as the R's haven't delivered much for conservatives it's hard to see this as a huge loss. You can only scare me with "but Hillary !!!" so long. I survived Buba nicely and will do the same with Hill or Obama.

I think the R's maybe need more time in the wilderness to get their ideas straight.

123 posted on 03/28/2007 10:50:06 AM PDT by Jack Black
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To: NYC Republican

So. Bush didn't carry California either time. California is not needed for Republican electoral victory.


124 posted on 03/28/2007 10:55:58 AM PDT by Jack Black
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To: Just another Joe
He doesn't (CA's lost, let's deal with it), but Steele would do the following?

Provide more of a balanced ticket, in a close election, he may tip it towards the GOP by attracting a larger share of minority voters

He's not another old white guy

He's EXTREMELY articulate and intelligent, more so than Huntr in my opinion, is equally conservative on most issues, but won't be painted into a corner (by MSM as a radical conservative) as easily as Hunter, IMHO...

By the way, he won state-wide in MD, Hunter never has

125 posted on 03/28/2007 11:10:38 AM PDT by NYC Republican (GOPs and Conservatives' Worst Nightmare - Myopic, Single-Issue Voters)
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To: Jack Black

Agreed- I was addressing that post to folks that think Hunter's addition to the ticket would help us win CA


126 posted on 03/28/2007 11:11:29 AM PDT by NYC Republican (GOPs and Conservatives' Worst Nightmare - Myopic, Single-Issue Voters)
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To: HitmanLV
The dems are not making any big mistakes in Congress. Their margins will increase in both the House and the Senate, barring a dramatic change in the political landscape. I don't think a strong conservative can win The white House - for whatever reason, the electorate just doesn't have the confidence in conservative values, either legit or irrational.

What, are you reading my posts then re-posting them in a reformulated manner? People are gonna think we're the same person, or (gasp) involved... I'm glad you're a Savage fan, there's proof that we are NOT the same person, as I DESPISE Savage and think Rush is amazing

127 posted on 03/28/2007 11:13:44 AM PDT by NYC Republican (GOPs and Conservatives' Worst Nightmare - Myopic, Single-Issue Voters)
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To: swatbuznik

Rudy's about 4th on my list of who I'd support... but if he turns out to be the GOP nominee, I'll support him wholeheartedly, if only to stop the lying libs/dems


128 posted on 03/28/2007 11:15:16 AM PDT by NYC Republican (GOPs and Conservatives' Worst Nightmare - Myopic, Single-Issue Voters)
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To: NYC Republican

I call things like they are. Savage rules it, and so does Dennis Prager, Mike Medved, Hugh Hewitt, and Dennis Miller. And many others.

Hannity is stuck on 2003's talking points - he has fallen and can't get up. Rush will always be the Dean, but I find his cheerleading for the GOP a huge turnoff. Not much clarity with either of those guys, sorry.


129 posted on 03/28/2007 11:16:01 AM PDT by HitmanLV ("If at first you don't succeed, keep on sucking until you do suck seed." - Jerry 'Curly' Howard)
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To: NYC Republican
OK, thanks for the info.
I'll take a closer look.

But is he in the market for a VP nomination?

130 posted on 03/28/2007 11:23:00 AM PDT by Just another Joe (Warning: FReeping can be addictive and helpful to your mental health)
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To: Just another Joe

Not sure. I'm sure he wouldn't turn it down. Many of us FReepers thought he would win the Senate election last year...Any other year, quite possibly, but he got sucked into the anti-GOP wave.


131 posted on 03/28/2007 11:58:10 AM PDT by NYC Republican (GOPs and Conservatives' Worst Nightmare - Myopic, Single-Issue Voters)
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To: HitmanLV

Did you hear Savage say the 911 attacks were brought to us by God cause we went astray as a culture/society? What a pompous a $ $


132 posted on 03/28/2007 11:59:35 AM PDT by NYC Republican (GOPs and Conservatives' Worst Nightmare - Myopic, Single-Issue Voters)
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To: NYC Republican

No, I must have missed that episode, sorry.


133 posted on 03/28/2007 12:02:14 PM PDT by HitmanLV ("If at first you don't succeed, keep on sucking until you do suck seed." - Jerry 'Curly' Howard)
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To: shortstop
It is amazing the tendency to take one's worst fears and assume that they will mature into reality. Could it happen? Sure, yep, the dems could win big in 2008. But judging 2008 by todays political climate is like predicting Friday's weather based on Wednesday's.

The democrats won a majority in the congress and are going to have to do something with it. This notion that they can do no wrong and will only strenghthen their position regardless of their actions is pure crapola. According to some, if the democrats came out tommorrow and announced that they planned to throw kittens into wood chippers and kill every child in America, then it would clearly demonstrate the Republican's weakness and set the democrats up for a big win in 2008!! The Republicans are no longer in the position to lead and/or govern. It is the democrats who are supposed to be doing that. So far, what have they done: offered a defense bill with pork and withdrawl from Iraq as a price for supporting our troops, tax increases out the whazoo by allowing the Bush tax cuts to expire, and investigations without end. I mean, for all the carping about President Bush's low approval number's, the approval numbers for the Nancy Pelosi/Harry Reid congress are where they were before the last election and sinking fast. So, those numbers spelled doom for a Republican congress but now spell good things for a democrat congress?

In my opinion, all this doom and gloom seems to have more to do with not being able to get over the last election than looking objectively at the next one.
134 posted on 03/28/2007 12:14:44 PM PDT by FlipWilson
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To: NYC Republican
Proverbs 14:26
In the fear of the LORD is strong confidence: and his children shall have a place of refuge.

The truth is inescapable. So what? If our philosophies are diametrically opposed to one another but we somehow manage to vote the same way, I'll thank God for it and I guess you'll just thank yourself. Whatever.

135 posted on 03/28/2007 12:20:28 PM PDT by Theophilus (Nothing can make Americans safer than to stop aborting them. www.gohunter08.com)
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To: NYC Republican

Luke 13

1 There were present at that season some that told him of the Galilaeans, whose blood Pilate had mingled with their sacrifices.

2 And Jesus answering said unto them, Suppose ye that these Galilaeans were sinners above all the Galilaeans, because they suffered such things?

3 I tell you, Nay: but, except ye repent, ye shall all likewise perish.

4 Or those eighteen, upon whom the tower in Siloam fell, and slew them, think ye that they were sinners above all men that dwelt in Jerusalem?

5 I tell you, Nay: but, except ye repent, ye shall all likewise perish.

Perhaps I'm a "pompous a$$" for quoting Jesus but, I'll take any calamity or outrageous injustice as a reminder to repent and our Nation and culture, no matter how good and idyllic it may be, would be wise to do likewise.

136 posted on 03/28/2007 12:36:03 PM PDT by Theophilus (Nothing can make Americans safer than to stop aborting them. www.gohunter08.com)
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To: HitmanLV

that was yesterday's show


137 posted on 03/28/2007 2:51:45 PM PDT by NYC Republican (GOPs and Conservatives' Worst Nightmare - Myopic, Single-Issue Voters)
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To: SampleMan

Does anyone care that they are "excellent candidates"?

Certainly none of the Democrats do. They just want to be back in power so bad they can't stand it.


138 posted on 03/28/2007 3:41:13 PM PDT by webstersII
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To: Ol' Sparky

"The only thing that will unify the GOP is a return the principles of Reagan and a platform and candidates that espouse it."

You mean a platform that doesn't promise all sorts of freebies for the lower wage earners?

Think about this: if Hillary promises them more money from the Treasury and Rudy/McCain/Thompson promises them nothing more from the Treasury, who gets the votes?


139 posted on 03/28/2007 3:43:44 PM PDT by webstersII
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To: JackDanielsOldNo7

Yes Bush and the RINO's lost the 2006 election for the Repubs, via turning off the base.

Get a RINO McCain or R.G. as candidate and the job to finish off the Repub chances of holding it's own will evaporate.

Motivating the Repub base to come out and vote in 2008 for a RINO, despite their having to hold their nose to do so, is recipe for electoral defeat.


140 posted on 03/28/2007 4:42:14 PM PDT by OldArmy52 (China & India: Doing jobs Americans don't want to do (manuf., engineering, accounting, etc))
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