Will Rudy make us real? - Importance of state primary could rest on Giuliani

Ventura County Star ^ | March 28, 2007 | Timm Herdt

[Cincinatus' Wife]

....Giuliani has a couple things going for him in California that he doesn't have in, say, South Carolina. He has the devoted and enthusiastic support of his longtime friend Bill Simon, which gives him credibility among California conservatives....

[Cincinatus' Wife]

***.... "I can't imagine in the history of war anybody announcing a timetable to run out and retreat," he said at an appearance at a delicatessen in this suburb just over the George Washington Bridge from New York City. "I think it's a terrible mistake. To put up the white flag and announce a timetable for retreat seems like a very bad strategy to me."

Giuliani's remarks came on the heels of the Senate narrowly passing a nonbinding timeline that would have troops home by next March. Bush is likely to veto the resolution.

"I hope that the president vetoes it," Giuliani said. "The full focus of our energies should be on supporting the troops that are there and trying to act against terrorism, trying to create an Iraq that acts as a bulwark against terrorism instead of a headquarters for terrorism."

He also didn't mince words when asked what he would do as president if Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad continued to flirt with developing nuclear weapons. "What I would do is make clear to him that he's not going to have nuclear weapons. ... Containment may have worked with the Soviets, but as far as I can recall, the Soviets weren't planning to come here and kill us. They didn't blow up the World Trade Center twice. We've got a different kind of enemy here. ...".......***

http://www.newsday.com/news/nationworld/nation/ny-usrudy285148210mar28,0,577326.story?coll=ny-nationalnews-print

[Coldwater Creek]

California conservatives=not your run of the mill conservatives from the hinterlands!

[Cincinatus' Wife]

***...At this early juncture, one prediction, suggested by the classic liberal tradition, seems reasonable: The competition and conflict that is developing among the leading conservative candidates should prove invigorating, not only for conservatism in America but for the nation as a whole.***

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0307/3323.html

[Coldwater Creek]

Agreed!

[areafiftyone]

(((((RUDY PING)))))

[veronica]

California conservatives=not your run of the mill conservatives from the hinterlands!

Yep, they're a special breed of conservative.

[George W. Bush]

A liberal fait accompli using the tiny Blue state GOP parties to try to capture the nomination will be an invitation for Red states to disengage from the GOP in 2008.

If he wins it by excluding the traditional primary states, he'd better not come looking for votes in conservative states in the fall.

[George W. Bush]

Yep, they're a special breed of conservative.

You mean the liberal breed of "conservative". At least try not to be dishonest so early in the day.

[Condor51]

Rudy can play all the Primary games he wants. The fact remains that Hillary is cleaning his clock in New York state. There are now TWO POLLS showing that, and Hillary's lead is INCREASING (from 10 to 12%) to boot.

And no POTUS has won without carrying his home state. So Rudy can pick and choose all the liberal state primaries he wants, it doesn't make a dime's worth of difference. Without New York he is t-o-a-s-t. Right President Gore.

Play the Electoral College 'game'. Give Rudy all the states on each coast, even the Carolinas - except NY, that's Hillary's. Go ahead, it ain't pretty. It's a Dem landslide.

(And don't be cheating by giving Rudy any Blue states like IL or Michigan, as that possibility is absurd.)

[JohnnyZ]

There's a very good chance that if he decides to base his nominating strategy on tipping his NYFD baseball cap at California Republicans, they'll swoon.

That, I can believe. There are some actual conservatives in California, but sadly outnumbered.

And I can well believe the liberals will not go down easy this election. They see this as their big chance to sieze control of the Republican Party.

[claudiustg]

So California will select the next Republican nominee? We're screwed.

[JohnnyZ]

Tom McClintock?

[claudiustg]

Arnold.

[George W. Bush]

Great post.

[KATIE-O]

....Giuliani has a couple things going for him in California that he doesn't have in, say, South Carolina. He has the devoted and enthusiastic support of his longtime friend Bill Simon, which gives him credibility among California conservatives....




Rudy is really gaining ground in the large number of true "conservatives" who are supporting and endorsing him. Very encouraging. He will do well in Oregon too, because he's a moderate.

[FairOpinion]

"But Giuliani has a couple things going for him in California that he doesn't have in, say, South Carolina. He has the devoted and enthusiastic support of his longtime friend Bill Simon, which gives him credibility among California conservatives. And because of Schwarzenegger, conservatives in this state have learned a pragmatic lesson: They like to win, even if it means they have to grumble about a few policy disagreements. "

Exactly!

[Spyder]

Thanks for the ping! Where you been? I'd missed them the past few days.

[areafiftyone]

Sorry I've been away for a couple of days. But I have now made arrangements and another Freeper has the ping list and will do it at night or if I am not on. The list is so big that it now will have 4 handlers!

[writeblock]

"And no POTUS has won without carrying his home state. So Rudy can pick and choose all the liberal state primaries he wants, it doesn't make a dime's worth of difference. Without New York he is t-o-a-s-t. Right President Gore."

Wrong. Guiliani consistently leads in the polls in PA, OH, NJ, CT, RI, and NJ. That's more than enough to do it. He may not lead in NY, but he would force Hillary to spend big bucks to defend her home turf--same goes for CA which he has a good chance of taking. Ditto for OR. No other Republican candidate has this kind of electoral clout.