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Rockefeller mulls secret prison shutdown
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Posted on 03/24/2007 9:23:01 AM PDT by Sub-Driver

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To: secretagent

"About 30 are considered major terrorism suspects and have been held under the highest level of secrecy at black sites financed by the CIA and managed by agency personnel, including those in Eastern Europe and elsewhere, according to current and former intelligence officers and two other U.S. government officials. Two locations in this category -- in Thailand and on the grounds of the military prison at Guantanamo Bay -- were closed in 2003 and 2004, respectively.

A second tier -- which these sources believe includes more than 70 detainees -- is a group considered less important, with less direct involvement in terrorism and having limited intelligence value. These prisoners, some of whom were originally taken to black sites, are delivered to intelligence services in Egypt, Jordan, Morocco, Afghanistan and other countries, a process sometimes known as "rendition." While the first-tier black sites are run by CIA officers, the jails in these countries are operated by the host nations, with CIA financial assistance and, sometimes, direction."

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/11/01/AR2005110101644_pf.html


21 posted on 03/24/2007 12:14:42 PM PDT by secretagent
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"U.S. officials have privately described the threat of rendition as a powerful tool in prying loose information from suspects who fear torture by foreign countries. But Gonzales, speaking to reporters at the Justice Department yesterday, said that U.S. policy is not to send detainees "to countries where we believe or we know that they're going to be tortured."

That represents a slight modification of his congressional testimony in January that renditions would not be made to countries where it is "more likely than not" they will be tortured. Gonzales added yesterday that if a country has a history of torture, Washington seeks additional assurances that it will not be used against the transferred detainee."

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A15130-2005Mar7.html


22 posted on 03/24/2007 12:17:18 PM PDT by secretagent
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To: secretagent; Sub-Driver

In wartime, I would expect CIA and similar operators to have safe houses scattered around the globe, I would be shocked if they didn't. I expect them to have secure locations where they can conduct their interrogations, and I expect that terrorists taken down in their operations will have to be dealt with, meaning in many cases incarcerated for a time.

I don't expect many of them to be incarcerated in 5 star hotels.

That doesn't disturb me in the least.

I am disturbed that people supposedly in the know are discussing it with the New York Times, or the Washington Post, and that politicians and pundits are trying to make hay out of it. Don't get me wrong, as a news junkie I love reading articles such as the ones you link. I am disturbed that someone on Rockefeller's committee, perhaps Rockefeller himself, is talking to the press. I'm disturbed that maybe people in the intelligence community itself is trying to blow an operation by leaking it to the press.


23 posted on 03/24/2007 12:28:20 PM PDT by marron
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I oppose torturing detainees, even more when we don't do the torturing. I expect the culture in America will put some brakes on the torture, compared to say Syria.

We've "rendered" people to Syria, asking for assurances that they won't torture...right.


24 posted on 03/24/2007 12:36:59 PM PDT by secretagent
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To: secretagent
I oppose torturing detainees, even more when we don't do the torturing.

I agree with you.

25 posted on 03/24/2007 12:40:18 PM PDT by marron
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To: Rummyfan
Rockefeller is such an ass...... Of course if successful in stopping this program, he will then move to limit what the FBI and the military can do too.

Except that Senator John McStain got around to that first.

26 posted on 03/24/2007 12:58:09 PM PDT by Stultis (I don't worry about the war turning into "Vietnam" in Iraq; I worry about it doing so in Congress.)
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To: Sub-Driver

So is the prison secret, or would the shutdown be secret?


27 posted on 03/24/2007 1:02:53 PM PDT by HitmanLV ("If at first you don't succeed, keep on sucking until you do suck seed." - Jerry 'Curly' Howard)
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To: The Spirit Of Allegiance
How about working to damage the reputation of America's traitors and enemies for a change, Jay?

Why would he do that, when he's one of them?

Mark

28 posted on 03/24/2007 1:09:35 PM PDT by MarkL (Environmental heretics should be burned at the stake, in a "Carbon Neutral" way...)
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