Marine unit ordered out of Afghanistan

Associated Press ^ | 23 Mar 07 | ROBERT BURNS, AP Military Writer

[Marine_Uncle]

I see what you mean. Tis a PC charade.

[mad_as_he$$]

A Bush leave the UN? You jest.

[rbmillerjr]

“the Corps has remained outside the spec ops world, working hard to avoid creating an elite cadre within a force that considers itself already elite.”

There is a big difference between being an elite fighting force and being a special operations unit. The Marines are an elite force but would be better suited to the urban environment in either Afghanistan or Iraq.

[darthyorktown]

heh i wish not

[SevenMinusOne]

Update: (While I don't particularly like any of the military times papers.....)

Lawyers: Evidence backs MarSOC’s claims

By C. Mark Brinkley and Trista Talton - Staff writers Posted : Tuesday May 8, 2007 14:29:35 EDT

JACKSONVILLE, N.C. — Photos of shot-up military vehicles and a classified Army intelligence report confirm that a group of spec-ops Marines was attacked with small-arms fire during a March 4 ambush in Afghanistan, according to the Marines’ attorneys.

Those claims directly contradict public statements made by the top special operations officer in the region, who said the Afghans who were killed at the site of the ambush were innocent, and that there was no evidence that members of the Marine special operations company took small-arms fire from Afghans after the Marines were ambushed by a car bomb........

[leadpenny]

Thank you for the update. Is there a link for the full article and which “Times” is it from?

I’ve wondered what the unit has been doing since they were pulled out?

[Chgogal]

George76; Marine_Uncle; bnelson44; SandRat: It seems there is proof that the Marine spec-ops have proof on their side.

I have been keeping an eye/ear open. What I have heard from the MSM was infuriating. On NPR last week their purposefully structured sentences implied that all the civilians were killed by irresponsible crazy spec-ops. This seems ridiculous considering where the IED went off and where the small arms battle ensued. The Al Qaeda/Taliban attack occurred in a market area making civilians the target. Al Qaeda/Taliban succeeded in pinning the blame of all civilians deaths on the spec-ops for various reasons. It sickens me that MSM is ALWAYS duped by Al Qaeda. If it were me, I would simply state Al Qaeda/Taliban attacked the spec-ops/civilians in close quarters and people died due to the callous nature of Al Qaeda/Taliban planning and philosophy. Unfortunately, MSM sides (MSM’s sentence/story structure) with our enemies and seems to prefer the primitive lifestyle of Al Qaeda/Taliban to that of the West. If that were not the case the reporting on the GWOT would be very different.

I still do not understand why the Military bigwigs have made the statements they have made these past couple of weeks. I am not up on the evidence that was collected and I am happy to hear that the Marines’ attorneys are able to prove their case. I strongly believe, considering the local of the ambush, that not all civilian deaths (27 I believe) were caused by our guys. This whole episode leaves much to be desired from Karzai, the Pentagon and MSM.

BTW, any word if AP filed a complaint against Al Qaeda/Taliban? My guess is NOT, once again proving my point that MSM and their die hard followers enable the enemy.

[leadpenny]

Thanks for the link via FreepMail.

[Marine_Uncle]

Surely your feelings are echoed by many of us. This is going to be another Haditha. All the damage will be done, SF individuals will suffer along with their families, and in the final outcome it will be proven our guys did not act outside their ROE.