Ruby Julie: "Donald, I just love it when freepers pimp a liberal like me".
Posted on 03/20/2007 6:13:16 AM PDT by areafiftyone
Irrelevant. Fred is widely viewed as far more conservative than Rudy. Perception is reality. Now, whether he beats Rudy in general polls is still undetermined, but Fred would immediately consolildate the Newt/Brownback/Hunter wing of the party, and vault him up to about 20% overnight. If the McCaniacs jump ship, Fred could get the lead.
Ummmmm, Weak attempt to drag Rudy up to Freds level. Rudys previous actions will be his downfall, not his claims.
2. Thompson has never advocated homosexual civil unions. Rudy has!
Apparently you are twisting what Rudy has said which I posted to suit yourself. I told you what Fred Said - it should go to the states and also his feelings on immigration are the same as Rudys as I quoted Rudy's feelings above. You apparently are not reading or don't care to read or listen because the truth is not to your liking when it comes to Rudy.
ummmm....what's the point of adding in people who aren't even running, unless you wanna play "statistical lie" with the People?
Why not add in Dick Cheney? Condi Rice? Rush Limbaugh? They're not running either...
I don't have to listen to you, I merely go back to what Rudy has actually said and done in the past. I do not believe what he is claiming today, but gauge him on his own past actions.
Rudy finds homosexual unions to be acceptable. Fred Thompson does not. Turning the decisions over to the states doesn't disassociate Rudy from the homosexual agenda stigma he suffers with conservatives.
Rudy has advocated a "safe haven" for illegals in New York City. Please show us where Fred Thompson has EVER suggested such a thing.
That's two polls this week in which Giuliani's overall support has declined. It's also interesting that in February of 1999 Bush was consistently polling in the 40s and had shown steady growth. Giuliani's support has been stuck in the mid 30s since November.
Ummm Fred Thompson said that Rudy didn't. That's how I KNOW you didn't listen to Fred's interview very well.
Oy vey...
And I'm for the rights of everybody, including gays, but not any special rights.
WALLACE: So, gay marriage? You're against.
THOMPSON: Yes. You know, marriage is between a man and a woman, and I don't believe judges ought to come along and change that.
WALLACE: What about civil unions?
THOMPSON: I think that that ought to be left up to the states. I personally do not think that that is a good idea, but I believe in many of these cases where there's real dispute in the country, these things are not going to be ever resolved.
,b>People are going to have different ideas. That's why we have states. We ought to give great leeway to states and not have the federal government and not have the Supreme Court of the United States making social policy that's contrary to the traditions of this country and changing that overnight. And that's what's happened in a lot of these areas.
Ruby Julie: "Donald, I just love it when freepers pimp a liberal like me".
With the field split as many ways as it is, as early as it is, that's still very significant. Gingrich and McCain have absolutely no chance, so their numbers will have to go somewhere. If Rudy only pulls 1/3 of each withdrawn candidates' numbers, he'll be able to carry the day easily.
Great to see McCain crash and burn.
Rudy's doing very well and Thompson should make it a race.
BTW, when do the Hunterbots start cueing up for the Koolaid?
Yes but he said it should be up to the states and not Judges.
It probably should be up to the states, rather than judges. That is what the 10th Amendment says. It doesn't make homosexual unions any more moral or justified, however. What Thompson is saying is that he would would not endorse homosexual unions, but that if the states choose to do so, it is better than the federal government mandating it.
You aren't reading what I wrote. I didn't say that Fred or Rudy said that. I said it. Didn't you notice that it wasn't in quotes? I'll say it again:
Turning the decisions over to the states doesn't disassociate Rudy from the homosexual agenda stigma he suffers with conservatives.
Rudy suffers a serious stigma with conservatives from his association to homosexual special interests. Get it? It doesn't matter if it is a state, federal or New York City issue. The overwhelming majority of Republican voters will not go along with the homosexual coddling of Giuliani.
The Rudymites are pissing themselves over a Fred Thompson run. I hope Thompson or Gingrich gets in it and sends Giuliani back to New York.
The poll was taken BEFORE the Thompson smoke signals were emitted. Merely reading the article would have restrained your erroneous presumption.
At this point in 2000 the field was split as many ways as it is now and Bush had significantly higher levels of support. In may of 1999 Bush broke 50% and by August the race was over with Bush polling in the mid-60s.
Rudy supporters are working hard to create an atmosphere of inevitability, but with a huge chunk of voters still unaligned it shows we have a long way to go.
So Rudy is in a statistical tie with Newt among the Very Conservative? Guess those supporting him in that group are just ignorant?
Not only is this looking like Rudy's nomination but a Democrat crackup in the General.
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