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U.K.: The 250,000 families with a spy in the bins (Test of trash cans that weigh your garbage)
The Daily Mail (U.K.) ^ | March 16, 2007 | STEVE DOUGHTY

Posted on 03/17/2007 10:41:20 AM PDT by Stoat

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To: LibFreeOrDie
Similar thing is happening in my town in New Hampshire.

Starting in July, each household will be allowed only one trashcan. Everything you want collected must fit into that one trashcan.

If you absolutely need another one, you have to pay $75 for it.

Meanwhile, my town taxes will still be going up for "services."

It's already gone beyond that point here in the People's Republic of Seattle.  We are also limited to one bin and recycling is REQUIRED.  If they discover that you haven't separated your recyclables and haven't placed them in the two or three other special bins you are subject to a stiff fine.

21 posted on 03/17/2007 11:41:35 AM PDT by Stoat (Rice / Coulter 2008: Smart Ladies for a Strong America)
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To: meyer
That's stupid. People will do what they do around here - take the trash to the local store dumpster or just toss it out in the wilderness.

That's one of the reasons for the opposition to this plan....there is a fear that it will increase rural littering and become a severe public health threat.

22 posted on 03/17/2007 11:44:12 AM PDT by Stoat (Rice / Coulter 2008: Smart Ladies for a Strong America)
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To: Eva
We don't have trash pick up, we take our trash to the dump, do our own recycling at the same place and the weigh the car going in and coming out. They pay us for our recycling of aluminum cans and we pay for the difference in weight of the vehicle entering and leaving the dump, with a minimus charge of $5.00 per trip. It just makes sense to pay by the weight.

We have the option of doing that as well, but I don't think it's possible, here in the People's Republic of Seattle, to completely opt out of the home trash collection fees.  And taking a load of trash to the dump in Seattle is a whole lot more expensive that $5.00

It's different when it's a required, regular fee such as the way the article relates the matter in the UK.  There is great concern that it will only increase illegal dumping and cause a great public health risk.

23 posted on 03/17/2007 11:49:31 AM PDT by Stoat (Rice / Coulter 2008: Smart Ladies for a Strong America)
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To: meyer
One major question - what is "fly-tipping"?

Illegal Dumping.

24 posted on 03/17/2007 11:59:51 AM PDT by Malsua
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To: Stoat

We also burn a lot of our trash, unless there is a burn ban in effect. If you burn it regularly and don't build too big a fire, you don't have to pull a permit. It would not be cost effective to burn, if you had to pay a $50.00 fee for a permit.


25 posted on 03/17/2007 12:02:38 PM PDT by Eva
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To: meyer

"One major question - what is "fly-tipping"?

A fun sport, where there are no cows to tip.


26 posted on 03/17/2007 12:02:46 PM PDT by USFRIENDINVICTORIA
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To: meyer

LOL

I assume based on context, it is what we in America would call 'dumping' - when I lived in Las Vegas years ago (we left for good in 91) the desert around town, esp out by the base, was full of old TVs, washing machines, etc that folks had to pay the dump to take - so they just drove to the edge of town and dumped it.

Not all was lost, we would take our local Cub Den ut and scavange parts from the TVs to make crystal radios.


27 posted on 03/17/2007 12:08:51 PM PDT by ASOC ("Once humans are exposed to excellence, mere average desirability is disappointing")
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To: Stoat
The newest tax scheme will be on mens pleasure rods based on the length and girth and womens pleasure mounds by the circumference, enterabilityand natural lubrication (no coal-based lubrication=less tax).

FMCDH(BITS)

28 posted on 03/17/2007 12:17:50 PM PDT by nothingnew (I fear for my Republic due to marxist influence in our government. Open eyes/see)
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To: Stoat

Coming soon! Complete confiscation of all property and giving you back just what you need. Now, Why did we fight the cold war against Communism?


29 posted on 03/17/2007 12:20:03 PM PDT by A Strict Constructionist (Nobles Oblige, BS, Well take care of it ourselves!)
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To: Eva
"We also burn a lot of our trash"

Our house still has an incinerator in the basement left over from the fifties. So far, our township in Pa. has a "you put it by the road, we take it away" collection policy.
30 posted on 03/17/2007 12:23:08 PM PDT by Born to Conserve
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To: Born to Conserve

When my family first lived in PA, we had separate garbage and trash removal. The township picked up the trash and the pig farmer picked up the garbage. I don't remember how long that lasted. I think the pig farmer was eventually forced out of business in the fifties. I was too young to remember.


31 posted on 03/17/2007 12:27:06 PM PDT by Eva
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To: A Strict Constructionist

I've often seen the list of the Communist plans from 1963 or whatever, and how many of them have been accomplished. I'm now going to take a look at the Declaration of Independence and see how many of those items have been UNdone.


32 posted on 03/17/2007 12:27:44 PM PDT by P.O.E.
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To: Stoat
The report said people should wash their bins regularly; "reduce moisture in waste containers"; wrap food waste; keep bins out of the sun; and put newspaper in the bottom to soak up liquid.

How does soaking up liquid make the container lighter?

The writers of this trash (pun intended) are so techno-stupid that they neglect to answer the obvious questions.
How accurate are these "chips"?
If a homeowner puts out an empty bin, but has taped 4 bricks to the underside of the container, will he be charged for the "heavy air"?

33 posted on 03/17/2007 1:36:17 PM PDT by Publius6961 (MSM: Israelis are killed by rockets; Lebanese are killed by Israelis.)
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To: Stoat; Colosis; Black Line; Cucullain; SomeguyfromIreland; Youngblood; Fergal; Cian; col kurz; ...

Substitute Ireland ping!


34 posted on 03/17/2007 1:53:09 PM PDT by Tax-chick (John Edwards is a gamma male. "Yeah, buddy, that's his own hair!")
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To: Stoat

My Brit in-laws are already upset about the EEU's dictates concerning child car seat and the shape of BANANAS!!! for crying out loud. So they're getting hammered from foreigners telling them how to run their lives AND their own government. It's just a matter of time before that kind of tyranny reaches our shores. In fact it's already started as most recycling is a severe waste of time and energy.


35 posted on 03/17/2007 1:57:24 PM PDT by driftless2
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To: Publius6961
How does soaking up liquid make the container lighter?

The writers of this trash (pun intended) are so techno-stupid that they neglect to answer the obvious questions.
How accurate are these "chips"?
If a homeowner puts out an empty bin, but has taped 4 bricks to the underside of the container, will he be charged for the "heavy air"?

Several of the posters shown in the Comments area of the Daily Mail article are similarly thunderstruck by the numerous elements of profound ineptitude and illogic which permeate this plan.

It seems to be nothing more than a manufactured 'problem' which was brought into being exclusively for the purpose of confiscating more hard-earned monies from our British (and Irish) Friends..

Any logistical or implementational problems made apparent during this test will undoubtedly be corrected for the 'final rollout" ( I stopped myself before I called it a "final solution".... a bit over the top, even for me) particularly if they get in the way of any billing issues.

The final trash-taxing plan will then be set in stone until the end of Time, or until our Friends Across the Pond get so fed up that they start massive rioting.  Honest and hardworking people can only take so much abuse before there's a backlash.

36 posted on 03/17/2007 2:00:37 PM PDT by Stoat (Rice / Coulter 2008: Smart Ladies for a Strong America)
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To: Tax-chick
Substitute Ireland ping!

Thank you very much for pinging the Ireland list; it's sincerely appreciated   :-)

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37 posted on 03/17/2007 2:11:49 PM PDT by Stoat (Rice / Coulter 2008: Smart Ladies for a Strong America)
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To: Stoat

You're welcome!


38 posted on 03/17/2007 2:14:40 PM PDT by Tax-chick (John Edwards is a gamma male. "Yeah, buddy, that's his own hair!")
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To: Stoat

The same leftists who cry crocodile tears about "the Bush administration tearing away our sacred Constitutional freedoms" are the socialists who demand total wealth redistribution, which would result in a surveillance regime far more severe than anything in the Patriot Act.


39 posted on 03/17/2007 3:04:06 PM PDT by denydenydeny ("We have always been, we are, and I hope that we always shall be detested in France"--Wellington)
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