Hidden dealers of sudden death (UK-Snipers)

http://news.scotsman.com/ ^ | Sat 17 Mar 2007 | IN KAJAKI

[IllumiNaughtyByNature]

It seems more like a puff piece to "warn" the enemy to their presence. I trust no paper that talks about Special Ops. Special Ops. should be like your mother farting, you know it happens but you shouldn't think about it or talk about it.

[Farmer Dean]

That's what I thought.I've shot woodchucks at that distance with iron sights.If they had said 800 meters I'd have been more impressed.

[robertpaulsen]

"... the rifle can shoot groups of 7.62mm bullets in a 51mm radius at 550 metres"

... the rifle can shoot groups of .30 cal bullets in a 4" circle at 600 yards.

[MrJapan]

in my younger years (between 10-16) I would go rabbit hunting almost every day. I could hit a jackrabbit at 300 meters no problem with my mini-14 (5.56cal/.223mm). I loved that gun

[MrJapan]

or was it 5.56mm?!
:P

[mewzilla]

Four snipers to take out two "sentries?" And from service rifle distance?

Target practice?

[mewzilla]

Excuse me, live fire exercise :)

[papertyger]

Hell son, round these parts that's clearing the chamber!

And we don't need three buddies to help...

[VOA]

bump

[reg45]

51mm is more like 2" (2" = 50.8mm).

[mewzilla]

New Olympic event? Synchronized sniping? Hey, I'm just glad these men are on our side :) God bless them!

[AEMILIUS PAULUS]

Iraq and Afghanistan are relatively open country.

[SauronOfMordor]

51mm is about 2 inches. 550 meters is a little under 600 yards. A rifle that will stay in a 2 inch radius group (4 inch diameter) is pretty good

[Repeal The 17th]

"...before work can begin, it has insisted that a 6km safety zone
is established ... marine commandos have cleared a 3km area ...
they patrol into position, dig a hide and wait. They fire off only
a few shots before withdrawing ... They are backed up by a
troop of marines who hide nearby..."
--
Its going to take an awfully long time to clear
the other 3km of the perimeter with this strategy.

[robertpaulsen]

"51mm is more like 2" (2" = 50.8mm)."

Correct. A 2" radius. What I call a 4" circle.

[papertyger]

New Olympic event? Synchronized sniping?

Na Na Na Nah Na "powpow" "powpow"...

:o)

[papertyger]

A rifle that will stay in a 2 inch radius group (4 inch diameter) is pretty good

So we're talking about a half minute of accuracy. They should be taking shots from three times that range, then the mohammedens wouldn't be mucking up their exfil.

[Farmer Dean]

Exactly.If they had had some more distance,then they could have knocked off a bunch more Taliban-then called for artillery cover and withdrawn.Is anyone using silenced sniper weapons like a 300 whisper caliber bolt gun?They could have killed just about everybody at the site with a couple of those guns.

[papertyger]

Is anyone using silenced sniper weapons like a 300 whisper caliber bolt gun?They could have killed just about everybody at the site with a couple of those guns.

Ya know, I'm familiar with the concept, but I kinda wonder if they are a little specialized for military applications.

I can't imagine any way to actually suppress a rifle without sending the gases all hither and yon. That's got to play holy hell with sniper level accuracy...especially with multiple shots.

Also, the payload to powder ratio has got to REALLY restrict the range those things are good at.

I'm sure they're great for sentry removal (how ironic), but general application?

[Farmer Dean]

The weapons are good to 300 meters in skilled hands,and modern suppressors don't hinder accuracy.The new suppressors work by cooling and redirecting the expelled gases internally with multiple baffles and ported tubes.Mine works great,but does heat up fairly quickly.