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Political Video of the Day: Team Rudy & Judy
The New York Sun ^ | 14 Mar 2007 | Ryan Sager

Posted on 03/16/2007 10:55:32 AM PDT by msnimje

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To: padre35
...however he is upfront about what he has done.

You keep saying that. Does that absolve him of his sins? Do you think that makes it okay in the eyes of his children?
21 posted on 03/16/2007 12:23:51 PM PDT by msnimje (True Conservatives will not support a pro-abortion candidate.)
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To: Ol' Sparky
You know what else is really bad about this? The man is supposed to be a Catholic.

He apparently is not loyal to anything on heaven or earth.

How can people can think that is okay for this country? France, sure. Italy, fine. But not the United States of America.
22 posted on 03/16/2007 12:26:54 PM PDT by msnimje (True Conservatives will not support a pro-abortion candidate.)
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To: Ol' Sparky

It's refreshing to have an proud adulterer and someone that demonstrates no concept of right and wrong as a Republican Presidential candidate?

So I suppose he should have shaved his head and joined a monastery?

Self Flaggelate?

What would you recommend as "penance" for him?

Rudy is running for the office of President, not Pope, whether he succeeds or fails is up to the American People whether yo like that or not.


23 posted on 03/16/2007 12:29:49 PM PDT by padre35 (I am from the "let's stop eating our own" wing of the Republican Party)
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To: msnimje

Does that absolve him of his sins? Do you think that makes it okay in the eyes of his children?

Absolve him of his sins? That would be between Rudy and his Priest. You would have to ask his children, I would have no idea about his relationship with them, meaning more than just a sound bite.

He has made his piccadillos known, the public has been informed and whether he wins or not is up to them. I prefer that candidates do not say one thing and do another, IMO that is one of the reasons why we lost in 2006, Mark Foley was a hippocrite and it tarred everyone.


24 posted on 03/16/2007 12:34:28 PM PDT by padre35 (I am from the "let's stop eating our own" wing of the Republican Party)
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To: padre35
So, adultery and character mean absolutely nothing to you? I'll bet anything you were one of the first people to attack Bill Clinton's adultery when he was running and was President.

And tell us, how conservatives are supposed trust a man to keep his campaign promises when his track record is at least 80% liberal and he failed to stay faithful to EITHER of his first two wives?

What's the point of a Republican winning if conservatives have to vote for someone not significantly different than Democratic nominee?

Conservatism can't succeed because too many "conservatives" and DUMB and DELUDED.

25 posted on 03/16/2007 12:37:42 PM PDT by Ol' Sparky
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To: padre35
Of course they will decide if the average Republican voters are ever told of the truth.

Polls show upwards of 75% of people participating in them no nothing about Rudy's life or stances on social issues.

You say he is so forthright about it, why is he dodging it all over the campaign trail.

"My family needs privacy," he says. The same man who announced his divorce to his wife through the media and flaunted his mistress at official events in NYC.

Stop using the word priest, we all know he is not running for priest or Pope.

But we also know we expect every person to have some damned integrity when it comes to their families.
26 posted on 03/16/2007 12:48:52 PM PDT by msnimje (True Conservatives will not support a pro-abortion candidate.)
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To: padre35
I am from the "let's stop eating our own" wing of the Republican Party

I am all for that, but Rudy is not one of our own!

27 posted on 03/16/2007 12:49:06 PM PDT by itsahoot (The GOP did nothing about immigration, immigration did something about the GOP (As Predicted))
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To: Ol' Sparky

So, adultery and character mean absolutely nothing to you? I'll bet anything you were one of the first people to attack Bill Clinton's adultery when he was running and was President.

What would you like to bet? Clinton's affairs in 92 popped up quickly and were gone quickly, I was a solid GHWB supporter so I wasn't paying too much attention to him.

And tell us, how conservatives are supposed trust a man to keep his campaign promises when his track record is at least 80% liberal and he failed to stay faithful to EITHER of his first two wives?

Then don't vote for him, I doubt that I will.
He has had a trainwreck for a personal life, he has not lied about his personal life yet, I find that different in a politician.

Conservatism can't succeed because too many "conservatives" and DUMB and DELUDED.

To each their own, I never said that I supported rudy, I have stated that I don't like him politically based on his positions, not necessarily based on his personal life.

Do you feel that most people are dumb and deluded? Why?


28 posted on 03/16/2007 12:49:10 PM PDT by padre35 (I am from the "let's stop eating our own" wing of the Republican Party)
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To: msnimje

Polls show upwards of 75% of people participating in them no nothing about Rudy's life or stances on social issues.

I think that is an accurate poll.

"My family needs privacy," he says. The same man who announced his divorce to his wife through the media and flaunted his mistress at official events in NYC.

Sooner or later, he won't be able to dodge questions that involve his public life that involve his political duties, right now IMO, the media is foisting him on us while at the same time stroking our fears of a Hilliary "win".

But we also know we expect every person to have some damned integrity when it comes to their families.

I agree, he has more divorces than anyone I know, when his non ex wife family has spoken at all, they show incredible bitterness towards him. A leader should also be a leader for their families as well as whatever political subdivision that they are responsible for.

And he still has Bernie Karik waiting to be sentenced.


29 posted on 03/16/2007 12:55:44 PM PDT by padre35 (I am from the "let's stop eating our own" wing of the Republican Party)
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To: itsahoot
I am from the "let's stop eating our own" wing of the Republican Party

I am all for that, but Rudy is not one of our own!

No, he isn't not really, I think he would make a good terror warrior President and he would fight corruption but that is about all we could look forward to with a Rudy win.

The downside is:

1. Gun control
2. Amnesty for illegals
3. Liberal Judges
4. Fed money for murdered baby research (Stem cells)
5. Gay Unions being paid for by the Fed Government
6. The open service of Homosexuals in the Military. The ending of Don't ask Don't tell.


If God. Guns and Taxes is the triumvirate of Republican Politics, Rudy is out of luck on two of the three right off the bat.
30 posted on 03/16/2007 1:03:40 PM PDT by padre35 (I am from the "let's stop eating our own" wing of the Republican Party)
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To: msnimje

I can't believe Republicans are even considering following up Laura Bush with this trollop. She walks down Fifth Avenue with Giuliani in a parade while he's still married to Donna Hanover and blatantly and proudly acknowledges that she's his current mistress.

Remember, these two are a package if he's elected president. He's not only head of government, he's Head of State representing the American people. He steps off Air Force One with her in some foreign country and they represent the history and traditions and beliefs of the American people as well as representing the current government.

The British are balking at the idea of Camilla as Queen because of her adultery with Charles. We've referred to the Royal family as "Eurotrash" because of their behavior (adultery, affairs, toe sucking, etc.) What's the difference here?

Read Robert Bork's "Slouching Toward Gomorrah." It's a warning about the deterioration of a society's moral standards. I didn't think that's what Republicans are about. More than sixty percent of regular church goers vote Republican, not Democrat. That should mean something.


31 posted on 03/16/2007 5:33:43 PM PDT by WestSylvanian
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I can't believe Republicans are even considering following up Laura Bush with this trollop.

They have bought into the MSM mantra about Rudy being the only one who can beat Hillary. I thought Republicans were smarter than that.
32 posted on 03/16/2007 5:47:41 PM PDT by msnimje (True Conservatives will not support a pro-abortion candidate.)
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To: WestSylvanian
She said it herself in the video, it is "Team Guiliani."

They make the Clintons look good.
33 posted on 03/16/2007 5:50:40 PM PDT by msnimje (True Conservatives will not support a pro-abortion candidate.)
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