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Wildlife refuges suffer heavy job losses
AP on Yahoo ^ | 3/15/07 | Matthew Daly - ap

Posted on 03/15/2007 8:50:59 PM PDT by NormsRevenge

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1 posted on 03/15/2007 8:51:00 PM PDT by NormsRevenge
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Fish and Wildlife Service: http://www.fws.gov

Defenders of Wildlife: http://www.defenders.org


2 posted on 03/15/2007 8:52:47 PM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ......)
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To: NormsRevenge

Oh, the huge manatees!


3 posted on 03/15/2007 8:54:40 PM PDT by Wally_Kalbacken (Seldom right but never in doubt)
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To: NormsRevenge

Is anyone going to STOP building the NWS Welcome centers that they cannot staff NOW????

EVERY mountain town seems to have one....


4 posted on 03/15/2007 8:55:23 PM PDT by tcrlaf (VOTE DEM! You'll Look GREAT In A Burqa!)
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To: NormsRevenge

This is easy, just let the F&G Service get some of the royalties from ANWAR


5 posted on 03/15/2007 8:55:29 PM PDT by neverhillorat (HILLORAT WINS, WE ALL LOSE)
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To: NormsRevenge

Not to worry. Global warming will wipe out most species
and their habitats within the next few decades. The work
load will fall off to meet the job loss levels....JJ61


6 posted on 03/15/2007 8:59:27 PM PDT by JerseyJohn61 (Better Late Than Never.......sometimes over lapping is worth the effort....)
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To: NormsRevenge
"Our national wildlife refuges are literally crumbling before our eyes...... the wildlife will survive ... they managed to survive before humans came to this land.
It's amazing how the Liberals, envirowackos, put humans in a sub category below animals, but, yet ? they warn us about the enviroment, and animals will either survive with our input, or be doomed by our actions.
7 posted on 03/15/2007 9:04:50 PM PDT by Prophet in the wilderness (PSALM 53 : 1 The FOOL hath said in his heart , There is no GOD .)
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To: JerseyJohn61
JUst give it back to the Injuns. They'd let it sit, poach fresh meat from time to time, save all that money, get govt out of land business, and land be same as today 100 years from now.

Them Indians are much better at caretaking the land than us whites, no joke.

8 posted on 03/15/2007 9:05:48 PM PDT by Eska
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To: neverhillorat
So has the Fish and Wildlife budget actually been reduced? or are these more "cuts" from requests for more money.
9 posted on 03/15/2007 9:07:20 PM PDT by Old North State
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To: NormsRevenge

It would be real nice if our government could hack away at some of the fraud and waste in the tar pit of social programs staff the Park Service and refuges. From what I've read, they are genuinely underfunded.


10 posted on 03/15/2007 9:16:52 PM PDT by clearlight ("I will expel the Jews and Christians from the Arabian Peninsula"-Muhammad)
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To: NormsRevenge
In all, the agency is planning to cut 565 jobs from wildlife refuges by 2009 — a 20 percent reduction.

How many field jobs are being cut vs. the number of "headquarters" jobs?

From what I have seen, the "headquarters" folks cut the field jobs (you know, the folks who actually do the work), while keeping all of the management jobs. Doesn't matter that there are fewer folks to manage, those "headquarters" jobs are the absolute last to go.

Google: Pournelle's Iron Law of Bureaucracy

If you are lazy, here is a piece from Wiki:

Pournelle has popularized a "law", which he calls Pournelle's Iron Law of Bureaucracy. This law "...states that in any bureaucratic organization there will be two kinds of people: those who work to further the actual goals of the organization, and those who work for the organization itself." The Iron Law states that in all cases, the second type of person will always gain control of the organization, and will always write the rules under which the organization functions.

11 posted on 03/15/2007 9:18:34 PM PDT by Coyoteman (Religious belief does not constitute scientific evidence, nor does it convey scientific knowledge.)
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To: Eska

I really hope you are joking. Just rode through the Navaho Nation from Gallup, NM to Tuba City, Az last summer on 264. That was the trashiest road I have ever been on. The was more garbage, empty beer/soda cans, water bottles, etc per mile than I have seen anywhere in the country. I remember the old commercial from about 20 years ago with the old Indian Chief crying over littering. I guess he hadn't looked at the reservation.



12 posted on 03/15/2007 9:20:42 PM PDT by fowb
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To: Old North State

What will happen is this- the 'cuts' will just be people forced to leave the agency with a pension and benefits. No new workers will be hired to fill the jobs. Now only if the federal government would lay off 20% of the ATF... that would be a step in the right direction.


13 posted on 03/15/2007 9:26:50 PM PDT by BigTom85 (Proud Gun Owner and Member of NRA)
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To: NormsRevenge

It's much, much more important to give this money to thugs who avoid the law, slugs who refuse to work, young women who think they can drop a kid then live off society, your next door neighbor who stubs his/her toe then goes on unemployment, and so on.

We've spent more than 7 trillion bucks since the Great Society began in 1967 (courtesy of Democratz) and what has the money bought us? Every year, a greater amount of the same bad behavior with growing costs borne by you and me.


14 posted on 03/15/2007 9:30:02 PM PDT by Rembrandt (We would have won Viet Nam w/o Dim interference.)
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To: neverhillorat

ANWR Bump


15 posted on 03/15/2007 9:37:13 PM PDT by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer)
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To: fowb
You can't judge Indians like white people, different culture; yet some things they do better than white people too, like sharing, acceptance, not being so greedy(we call that success).

Indians came from throw away society, when something broke you just dropped it on the spot. 100 years back; everything was made of wood & leather; it rotted.

INdians same up here with beer cans & trash; but most of that comes from our society, we encircle them and sell them all the beer cans and garbage; they drop it like they always have when empty.

Our Indians here are distant cousins of yours (Athabaskan). Sure they're rough and alot of alcohol and culture clash since they met up with us (they did get worse part of bargain)but no joke they don't do much with the land, except hunting; all the trash is nx to roads and village anyway, not back in the refuge.

I could show you place after place here in alaska where on one side of river was given to village and other side to state from feds, like back in 1950's. On states side of river its subdivisions, gas stations, and mini-marts,,,, and on Indians side its still wilderness and forest. They ain't real big into development and selling this and that. If you want the land to look the same as it does now, give it to indians and it will in 100 years. Us whites use the politicals to change everything around and make money. They don't think like us.

16 posted on 03/15/2007 9:44:47 PM PDT by Eska
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They don't think like us.

I've been on and off reservations a lot in my life. I've also watched you post for a few years. I see a change in thought pattern, language use, grammar, and ideation in your posts. Eska, get out for a while, you're going native.

17 posted on 03/15/2007 9:55:40 PM PDT by MARTIAL MONK
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To: fowb

About par for the course on a lot of reservations. Roads get lined with broken glass quick. BTW, that "indian chief" wasn't. Google Iron Eyes Cody for an interesting story.


18 posted on 03/15/2007 9:58:38 PM PDT by Southbound ((Formerly a hairy-legged, deprived banjo picker.))
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To: NormsRevenge

"More than 200 wildlife refuges across the country will be unstaffed."

Gee! I wonder how the animals lived before they were managed by people.

In reality, for each worker who actually maintained the grounds and animals, there were probably 20 "pencil pushers."


19 posted on 03/16/2007 3:41:24 AM PDT by DH (The government writes no bill that does not line the pockets of special interests.)
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To: Eska

"Them indians are much better at caretaking the land than us whites, no joke." You've got to be kidding, this guy evidently hasn't been to the RES. lately if ever and see how they tend the land.


20 posted on 03/16/2007 3:49:08 AM PDT by snowman1
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