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End of production line for 747-400 passenger jet
Seattle Post-Ingelligencer ^ | March 15, 2007 5:55 p.m. PT | JAMES WALLACE

Posted on 03/15/2007 7:45:23 PM PDT by skeptoid

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And even before Boeing begins building the 747-8, it still has another 36 747-400 freighter orders to fill.

I'm just reading Joe Sutter's 747 again.

What a legacy!

1 posted on 03/15/2007 7:45:25 PM PDT by skeptoid
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To: skeptoid
As someone put it on another forum, "PAL had those four 747-400's on order since the Pleistocene Era."
2 posted on 03/15/2007 7:47:42 PM PDT by COEXERJ145 (Bush Derangement Syndrome Has Reached Pandemic Levels on Free Republic.)
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To: skeptoid

747 was a great innovation and is a legendary air frame.


3 posted on 03/15/2007 7:51:23 PM PDT by llevrok (When illegals are the majority, can we citizens open up casinos ?)
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the 747 frame will still go on, in the line of the 747-8I.... but, this will be the last 747 of that frame size since Boeing is going to stretch the baseline fuselage 747-400 to the 747-8I.
4 posted on 03/15/2007 7:57:02 PM PDT by Prophet in the wilderness (PSALM 53 : 1 The FOOL hath said in his heart , There is no GOD .)
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To: llevrok
Design to revenue flight in under four years using pencil and paper.
And the early ones had 'steam guages' in the panel.
5 posted on 03/15/2007 8:01:56 PM PDT by skeptoid (AE, AA , MBS)
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There aren't many things that you can say changed the world. The B747 is the American Caravel.


6 posted on 03/15/2007 8:03:43 PM PDT by tanuki
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And then, ....this Wiki reference:

On 24 May 1991 an El Al Boeing 747 airlifted a record-breaking 1,087 passengers – Ethiopian Jews flying from Addis Ababa to Israel as part of Operation Solomon. The passenger count became 1,088 when a baby was born in-flight.[citation needed]

...and Wiki says this is a -200 cockpit:

7 posted on 03/15/2007 8:12:06 PM PDT by skeptoid (AE, AA , MBS)
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The reasons why Boeing is selling the 777-300ER in place of the 747-400 are 1) you get almost as much seating capacity and 2) the range of the 777-300ER is actually a little bit more than than the 747-400. With the 777-300ER likely to get way beyond ETOPS 180 certification, it means the plane can fly most of the world's transoceanic routes safely.


8 posted on 03/15/2007 8:18:31 PM PDT by RayChuang88
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"The last four planes still on the company's order books have been removed in a hush-hush deal that saw Philippine Airlines switch its order to the 777....But until Thursday, Boeing had continued to carry four remaining 747-400 passenger jets on its books. Boeing would not confirm that the four jets were among seven ordered by Philippine Airlines in 1993, but people with knowledge of the matter said those were the same planes." - article

1993? Does the Boeing balance sheet reflect these orders immediately or does Boeing wait until it is building the plane for the specific customer?


9 posted on 03/15/2007 8:25:49 PM PDT by mdefranc
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With the 777-300ER likely to get way beyond ETOPS 180 certification, it means the plane can fly most of the world's transoceanic routes safely.

Here's a recent article about FAA changes that allow the latest generation of long-range jets can fly virtually any route in the world, including over the South Pole., and Baseler says ...all commercial passenger airplanes, no matter how many engines, will operate under the same standards.....

It looks as though ETOPS is a thing of the past.

Sadly, Randy says he's retiring soon.

10 posted on 03/15/2007 8:41:24 PM PDT by skeptoid (AE, AA , MBS)
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To: Paleo Conservative

aerospace ping


11 posted on 03/15/2007 8:43:56 PM PDT by Fractal Trader
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To: mdefranc

I'm totally clueless (and almost criminally negligent about finacial matters) but PAL is aparently still considered more quick than dead.


12 posted on 03/15/2007 8:50:16 PM PDT by skeptoid (AE, AA , MBS)
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"Boeing has 84 firm orders for the 747-8, including 20 Intercontinentals ordered by Lufthansa."

What? Isn't Lufthansa going to support cult Aerobus and buy the 380's? See even the Germans don't trust it.
13 posted on 03/15/2007 9:04:35 PM PDT by JSteff
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Do today's pilots even know what half those knobs and gauges are? My God, now that's a cockpit!


14 posted on 03/15/2007 9:11:54 PM PDT by tanuki
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now that's a cockpit

Lots of vacuum tubes too, I bet. Woof !

15 posted on 03/15/2007 9:21:59 PM PDT by llevrok (When illegals are the majority, can we citizens open up casinos ?)
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To: tanuki

They know what all of them are for. Actually an entire 747 flight is flown (in most cases) from the controls on the upper lip of the dashboard (instrument panel). The airplane is only flown for the takeoff roll to 200 feet off the ground, when the autopilot is turned on, and during the last 200 feet before touchdown, until parked. The level of automation, even down to 10 passenger commuterjet and turboprop aircraft, is amazing though. GPS systems, are taking easy to an even higher level. Most of the dials and guages in a airplane instrument panel today are just monitors, or secondary systems to doublecheck on what is supposed to be happening.


16 posted on 03/15/2007 9:43:45 PM PDT by kylaka
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I love the -400, flew it all over the world, a great plane.

But, every great plane meets its end, we lost the 717 and 757 recently.

I got to fly the 100, 200, 300, 400 and SP, but never the SR.


17 posted on 03/15/2007 9:48:04 PM PDT by Central Scrutiniser (Never Let a Theocon Near a Textbook. Teach Evolution!)
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To: JSteff

Lufthansa is one of the launch operators for the A380.

In fact, on March 19, the A380 makes dual landings in JFK and LAX, the first time the A380 is on US soil. One Singapore jet and one Lufthansa.

On the 20th, the LH plane goes to O'Hare.

Plenty of room for Airbus and Boeing, they each make each other better.


18 posted on 03/15/2007 9:51:28 PM PDT by Central Scrutiniser (Never Let a Theocon Near a Textbook. Teach Evolution!)
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To: kylaka

Wow! Thanks for that description. It makes me appreciate what modern aircraft can do even more. Now if only my car could go on automatic after I left the driveway.


19 posted on 03/15/2007 9:58:48 PM PDT by tanuki
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To: llevrok

Ah, the good old days. Software, what's that?


20 posted on 03/15/2007 10:02:55 PM PDT by tanuki
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