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Gravity tamer brought down to earth
Herald Sun ^ | Mar 14, 2007 | terry brown

Posted on 03/14/2007 4:37:05 AM PDT by Kiss Me Hardy

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To: aruanan

wasn't edison actually known for stealing ideas from others? I thought I had read that back in highschool or somewhere or another.

I'll probably be corrected if I'm wrong (which I may be)


21 posted on 03/14/2007 5:16:59 AM PDT by esoxmagnum
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To: esoxmagnum

Sometimes you may be corrected even if you are right.


22 posted on 03/14/2007 5:20:40 AM PDT by freedomfiter2 (Duncan Hunter: pro-life, pro-2nd Amendment, pro-border control, pro-family)
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To: Kiss Me Hardy

Hey,, I am convinced people will believe anything! If the right person were to start hyping this half the world would believe in it even if they could never get it to turn on! I can see it now,,, "Al Gore and his amazing Anti-Gravity Machine!" Hollywood stars would rave and rich liberals would fawn! Al Gore could take movies of his Amazing Anti-Gravity Machine to schools around the world and demand government funding! Kook bloggers would create conspiracy theories about Bush and Big Oil trying to destroy Al Gore's Amazing Machine and interfering with it's progress! Lib scientists would unveil computer models of the Amazing Machine's positive effect on the ozone. The media would call it "our last great hope!" Yep,, it would all be fun to watch!


23 posted on 03/14/2007 5:24:15 AM PDT by freemike
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To: Kiss Me Hardy

SWEET!!!! Now we'll have those flying cars in 2015...Just like "Back to the Future 2".. :)


24 posted on 03/14/2007 5:26:59 AM PDT by Darth Dan
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To: JCEccles
He dreamed large and worked hard. Even in his profound failure there is a nobility that is lacking among the great majority of his fellow beings.

That is why it is so sad.

Once upon a time, on Sundays, one could visit people nobly detached from reality, for the price of a Penny, at St. Mary's of Bethlehem, in London.

The Frenette Furnace appeared during the so-called "Energy Crisis" of Carter. The inventor had a dream, and was sincere. It was impossible to explain to him the difference between Heat and Temperature.

Is it too much to ask, before someone invests their life in pursuing something, to ask them to READ A BOOK FIRST?

To me, that is the difference between nobility and pathos.

Note, I am not discussing cynical IPO scammers here, but committed independent inventors who for some reason refuse to learn the rules..And the Laws of Thermodynamics are not negotiable, and do not yield to fantasies.

25 posted on 03/14/2007 5:28:24 AM PDT by Gorzaloon (Global Warming: A New Kind Of Scientology for the Rest Of Us.)
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To: esoxmagnum
technically, no.

stealing ideas from one person is plagerism, but

stealing ideas from many people is just research ;^)

26 posted on 03/14/2007 5:28:43 AM PDT by chilepepper (The map is not the territory -- Alfred Korzybski)
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To: Izzy Dunne
In theory the gadget would trick gravity into endlessly forcing water around a pipe, pushing a piston.

OK, let's figure it out. Water from the top goes down the pipe due to force of gravity. What pushes water up on the other side of the loop? Convection? Nope, no heat source. Mechanical force? Nope, no pump, no power source.

OOOHH! OOOHH! I got it! It's MAGIC!

27 posted on 03/14/2007 5:30:15 AM PDT by JimRed ("Hey, hey, Teddy K., how many girls did you drown today?" (Hello, I'm a TAGLINE virus. Please help m)
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To: Izzy Dunne

Now, now, be kind. Heck, even I developed a very plausible sounding theory on gravity. It was so plausible that I ended up writing a novel about it because I couldn't actually build the thing. Dreamers are important, in their place. See my tagline.


28 posted on 03/14/2007 5:33:32 AM PDT by lafroste (gravity is not a force. See my profile to read my novel absolutely free (I know, beyond shameless))
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To: esoxmagnum
wasn't edison actually known for stealing ideas from others? I thought I had read that back in highschool or somewhere or another.

He had a lot of star-struck assistants working for him.

That's the way it works. I have had several bosses in my career, who for some reason, never had a patent issued till I worked for them. Of course, all of them "Materially contributed to the Invention".

ALL VP's and PhDs Materially contribute. Or the Aplication never goes in. No one is going to convince their supervisor to commit to tens of thousands of Dollars in expenses if there is no gain for them.

So at first glance, Edison was an IP Parasite who had a couple of good ideas of his own, and hundreds of ideas which "appeared". But in truth, he was just acting like any current Fortune 500.

The Inventor does the tricks.

The Boss pays legal expenses for, and feeds, clothes, and houses the producer.

Just like any other pimp.

29 posted on 03/14/2007 5:38:24 AM PDT by Gorzaloon (Global Warming: A New Kind Of Scientology for the Rest Of Us.)
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To: camle
I once talked to a Liberal Moonbat in Wisconsin who told me that in order to save the planet, we needed to cut off electricity to the homes. Jokingly I asked her if she intended to watch TV by candle light and she said, "Oh, yes!" I told her that she wouldn't be able to as the same electricity that powered her home lights also powered her TV. She said, "That isn't fair! They should cut off the power to my lights, but not my TV!" I told her that there were switches on the wall to do just that. She told me that the government should do something about it. It wasn't her responsibility!

I am afraid that she subsequently reproduced.

30 posted on 03/14/2007 5:48:33 AM PDT by Redleg Duke (Heaven is home...I am just TDY here!)
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To: freemike
"Al Gore and his amazing Anti-Gravity Machine!"

At the rate he is gaining weight one of these may be his only hope.

31 posted on 03/14/2007 5:50:45 AM PDT by Joe Miner
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To: Redleg Duke

sometimes even I wonder about the stupidity of the average lefty. and sometiems I am surprised by the totality of it.


32 posted on 03/14/2007 6:00:36 AM PDT by camle (keep your mind open and somebody will fill it full of something for you)
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To: Redleg Duke

A dear friend, retired stationary engineer of some reknown, at 83 designed a plastic box with tubes in it that he said could generate more pressure than was used to start it. He frightened himself with the only test when it nearly exploded.
Some of these geezers understand things in a way that the rest of us do not. The problem seems to be that they lose the ability to communicate with the rest of us unable to keep up.
I have no doubt but that all of these principles - antigravity, expanding energy, space warp travel, et al - will become daily principles when we are able to wrap our brains around a world that includes them. Until then, we are trapped in a mind set that says a resounding "NO!" to all such possibilities.


33 posted on 03/14/2007 6:05:40 AM PDT by Louis Foxwell (here come I, gravitas in tow.)
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To: Redleg Duke

I have had many similar conversations.


34 posted on 03/14/2007 6:07:13 AM PDT by redgolum ("God is dead" -- Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" -- God.)
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To: Izzy Dunne
There's no such thing as gravity. The Earth SUCKS!!

;o)
35 posted on 03/14/2007 6:08:44 AM PDT by LIConFem (Thompson/Hunter 2008!)
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To: Kiss Me Hardy

"or it would if only someone would take him seriously and build the damn thing."

One of the prime clues that you're looking at another wacko perpetual-motion machine that will never work is that the inventor, despite being absolutely sure that it is the solution to all our energy needs, and would surely profit hugely from it if so, hasn't actually built a working version of it.

I'm also sure that someone will be along here to tell us why the known laws of physics and thermodynamics no longer apply in this case.


36 posted on 03/14/2007 6:10:02 AM PDT by -YYZ-
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To: Redleg Duke

"Why, do you know that some crackpot actually stated that man would someday be able to talk across the oceans using radio waves? And another crackpot claimed that men would fly!"

Neither of which required breaking any of the laws of physics or thermodynamics known at the time. It was just a question of actually inventing the technology to do it.


37 posted on 03/14/2007 6:13:29 AM PDT by -YYZ-
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To: Amos the Prophet
... designed a plastic box with tubes in it that he said could generate more pressure than was used to start it. He frightened himself with the only test when it nearly exploded. ... The problem seems to be that they lose the ability to communicate with the rest of us ...

Hmm, if the box really does what he claimed, he wouldn't have to communicate. Just hand over the box for evaluation.

38 posted on 03/14/2007 6:35:07 AM PDT by Brujo (Quod volunt, credunt.)
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To: Kiss Me Hardy

"I have tamed gravity. I can switch it on and off!"



Won't we all just float off into SPACE if this thing works...???


And all this time I thought George Jetson was just a myth...


39 posted on 03/14/2007 6:51:15 AM PDT by JB in Whitefish
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To: Redleg Duke
Oh, I agree with you. Why, do you know that some crackpot actually stated that man would someday be able to talk across the oceans using radio waves? And another crackpot claimed that men would fly!

You don't get it. He says that he has done it. Maybe people can be wrong but by now money would have found his perpetual motion machine regardless of the skeptics.

40 posted on 03/14/2007 7:26:01 AM PDT by bkepley
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