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Sunday Morning Talk Show Thread 11 March 2007
Various big media television networks ^ | 11 March 2007 | Various Self-Serving Politicians and Big Media Screaming Faces

Posted on 03/11/2007 5:25:34 AM PDT by Alas Babylon!

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To: edpc

YOu noticed that he "claimed" they didn't know??!!


361 posted on 03/11/2007 8:41:18 AM PDT by mtnwmn (mtnwmn)
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To: MNJohnnie

Oh..Joe said that he is using the Kosovo, splitting up of Yugoslavia as a MODEL for what we should do in Iraq!!!

Yes, he pretty much is incredulous that this hasn't been Pres. Bush's plan for solving the strife all along..


362 posted on 03/11/2007 8:42:08 AM PDT by Txsleuth (I don't know who I am voting for yet...just window shopping.)
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To: mtnwmn

Yeah, it was laziness, stupidity, lying......or all three.


363 posted on 03/11/2007 8:42:14 AM PDT by edpc (Watch this space)
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To: txradioguy
...gutting of the military from 93-01--...400,000 Military members shown the door.

Brilliant post and it should be echoed over an over. Drooping 400K Soldiers is key to everything.It should never be forgotten and who did it.

364 posted on 03/11/2007 8:42:30 AM PDT by rodguy911 (Support The New media, Ticket the Drive-bys, --America-The land of the Free because of the Brave-)
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To: rodguy911
aking the claim that the dems won't like it and they will be even harder to get along with if we pardon Scooter is hardly compelling. Since when do they like anything this President has ever done.

It is not a claim, just a fact. The Dems and MSM will make political hay out of it. It is just another pretext to attack Bush. Why give them the ammunition?

I tend to disagree with your analysis this time.

I tend to disagree with yours. Again, what are the political advantages of giving Libby a pardon now?

365 posted on 03/11/2007 8:43:06 AM PDT by kabar
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To: eeevil conservative
Two gold stars and one black check mark, so you come out ahead.
366 posted on 03/11/2007 8:43:46 AM PDT by rodguy911 (Support The New media, Ticket the Drive-bys, --America-The land of the Free because of the Brave-)
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To: saveliberty

Well, if Juan is our sample of what the other side is thinking, it isn't much, is it?


367 posted on 03/11/2007 8:44:07 AM PDT by Clara Lou (Run, Fred, run!)
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To: kabar

Let's hope regime change happens.


368 posted on 03/11/2007 8:45:26 AM PDT by rodguy911 (Support The New media, Ticket the Drive-bys, --America-The land of the Free because of the Brave-)
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To: MNJohnnie
Current ROE's are complex. They're putting our troops at risk.

The "dust off the bombers" comment is just hyperbole on my part. It's a metaphor for us changing our conduct of the war to use sensible tactics that protect our troops and kills the enemy. Mosques that fire on our troops are legitimate targets.
369 posted on 03/11/2007 8:46:04 AM PDT by aligncare (I'm still shopping for a president.)
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To: southernindymom

I have given Waters the honor of calling her MARXINE Waters!


370 posted on 03/11/2007 8:46:17 AM PDT by OldFriend
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To: kabar
The only good reason to pardon Libby now is to save him the enormous legal costs of filing an appeal. Otherwise, a pardon now would be a negative politically. It is a foregone conclusion that Libby will be pardoned by Bush. It is a matter of when, not if.

I would disagree on several levels with your conclusion, but not your premise that a pardon now would be a negative politically.  However, the substance of that argument is that the Dhimmicrats and drive by media would launch nasty attacks on George Bush if he did this and accuse him of being a criminal.  In case you haven't noticed they're doing that now.  It's like saying we shouldn't attack Al Qaeda because they might get mad and attack us.

Pardoning Libby now would be a declaration that Fitzgerald himself committed an unlawful act by abusing his office and prostituting the law for political gain.  But the President would have to do this 100% in the open, with an Oval Office speech, lay down the challenge to the moonbats that they must stop waging war on our country for their own selfish ends.

371 posted on 03/11/2007 8:46:38 AM PDT by Phsstpok (Often wrong, but never in doubt)
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To: rodguy911

I can't forget...I lived through it. I remember when there was a rash of suicides in the 10th Mountain Div because they were on such a heavy deployment schedule.

When the 1st Armored Div was in a non deployable status because of shrofalls in readiness and manning.

And I remember Algore GLOATING in a stump speech about how his re-inventing government plan cut "400 thousand jobs from the Federal payroll" and if he was elected President "not one single job" would be added.


And people that weren't cognizent of politics then or the military then need to know these things before they start hearing the reckless ranting soundbites being played by the DBM trying to lay all of this at the Presidents doorstep.


372 posted on 03/11/2007 8:47:00 AM PDT by txradioguy (In Memory Of My Friend 1SG Tim Millsap A Co. 70th Engineer Bn. K.I.A. 25 Apr. 2005)
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To: snugs

Thanks snugs, good job EC, good choices.


373 posted on 03/11/2007 8:47:09 AM PDT by rodguy911 (Support The New media, Ticket the Drive-bys, --America-The land of the Free because of the Brave-)
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To: southernindymom
If FNC is going to be damned for being too conservative, they might as well live up to that, rather than living down to trying to show they're so balanced.

Ratner, Beckel, Ferraro, and assorted other libniks give the mute button on my TV quite the workout.

374 posted on 03/11/2007 8:48:01 AM PDT by OldFriend
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To: kabar
The Dems and MSM will make political hay out of it. It is just another pretext to attack Bush.

What race does Bush lose if he pardons Libby?

375 posted on 03/11/2007 8:48:13 AM PDT by NautiNurse (Action speaks louder than words but not nearly as often.)
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To: saveliberty

Adding it to my reading list now.

http://www.randomhouse.com/knopf/catalog/display.pperl?isbn=9780375414862

The Looming Tower Al-Qaeda and the Road to 9/11

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A sweeping narrative history of the events leading to 9/11, a groundbreaking look at the people and ideas, the terrorist plans and the Western intelligence failures that culminated in the assault on America. Lawrence Wright’s remarkable book is based on five years of research and hundreds of interviews that he conducted in Egypt, Saudi Arabia, Pakistan, Afghanistan, Sudan, England, France, Germany, Spain, and the United States.

The Looming Tower achieves an unprecedented level of intimacy and insight by telling the story through the interweaving lives of four men: the two leaders of al-Qaeda, Osama bin Laden and Ayman al-Zawahiri; the FBI’s counterterrorism chief, John O’Neill; and the former head of Saudi intelligence, Prince Turki al-Faisal.

As these lives unfold, we see revealed: the crosscurrents of modern Islam that helped to radicalize Zawahiri and bin Laden . . . the birth of al-Qaeda and its unsteady development into an organization capable of the American embassy bombings in Kenya and Tanzania and the attack on the USS Cole . . . O’Neill’s heroic efforts to track al-Qaeda before 9/11, and his tragic death in the World Trade towers . . . Prince Turki’s transformation from bin Laden’s ally to his enemy . . . the failures of the FBI, CIA, and NSA to share intelligence that might have prevented the 9/11 attacks.

The Looming Tower broadens and deepens our knowledge of these signal events by taking us behind the scenes. Here is Sayyid Qutb, founder of the modern Islamist movement, lonely and despairing as he meets Western culture up close in 1940s America; the privileged childhoods of bin Laden and Zawahiri; family life in the al-Qaeda compounds of Sudan and Afghanistan; O’Neill’s high-wire act in balancing his all-consuming career with his equally entangling personal life—he was living with three women, each of them unaware of the others’ existence—and the nitty-gritty of turf battles among U.S. intelligence agencies.

Brilliantly conceived and written, The Looming Tower draws all elements of the story into a galvanizing narrative that adds immeasurably to our understanding of how we arrived at September 11, 2001. The richness of its new information, and the depth of its perceptions, can help us deal more wisely and effectively with the continuing terrorist threat.


376 posted on 03/11/2007 8:48:19 AM PDT by MNJohnnie (If you will try being smarter, I will try being nicer.)
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To: kabar
Yeah, that would only leave us 9,999 things to use against the Clintonistas.
377 posted on 03/11/2007 8:48:59 AM PDT by rodguy911 (Support The New media, Ticket the Drive-bys, --America-The land of the Free because of the Brave-)
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To: MNJohnnie
Ms Water. Whites and blacks "got along" during Slavery the same way Shia and Sunni "got along" in Saddam's Iraq. That did not make it right.

What and utterly despicable shamefully ignorant thing for here to say about Iraq.

Absolutely brilliant rejoinder to one of the most brain dead statements by a truly clueless individual.
 

378 posted on 03/11/2007 8:49:19 AM PDT by Phsstpok (Often wrong, but never in doubt)
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To: Clara Lou
Er ahem, they get hired for their pretty legs, not necessarily their faces.

The audition is to see how far up the leg the camera can go without showing undies, or lack thereof.

379 posted on 03/11/2007 8:49:21 AM PDT by OldFriend
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To: aligncare; MNJohnnie

The ROE we have over there now...in my opinion is the result of political correctness.

There is NOTHING that is PC about war or combat. Yet we are trying to fight that way.

I had more briefings by JAG in Iraq over how to conduct ourselves under the ROE than any other class instruction I had...it was incredible.


380 posted on 03/11/2007 8:50:06 AM PDT by txradioguy (In Memory Of My Friend 1SG Tim Millsap A Co. 70th Engineer Bn. K.I.A. 25 Apr. 2005)
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