Posted on 03/09/2007 11:16:11 AM PST by slickeroo
^^^^^^^^^^^^They're both leftists.
You've failed to prove that point^^^^^^^^^^^^
What do you expect, shall I link you to Rush's audio where he talks about Apple's reluctance to advertise on his show?
Look at Al Gore, who sits on Apple's board. Look at Warren Buffet, who's buddy buddy with Gates.
Furthermore, take a look at what Steve Jobs said about the teachers unions recently. That isn't anything new. I've heard numerous conservatives say basically the same things over the past few years, and every single time the media and the left attack them feverishly.
Have you noticed how Jobs got a pass? Rush noticed it too.
http://www.rushlimbaugh.com/home/daily/site_022007/content/01125108.member.html
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^Only if you're a big lib, only if you're a big Democrat, do you get applauded for this kind of talk.^^^^^^^^^^^
It seems that everybody in the world who's paying attention.... Except for you.... knows that Jobs is a big lib.
Here's Jobs' political donations. He's a huge democrat.
http://www.newsmeat.com/billionaire_political_donations/Steve_Jobs.php
Same thing with Gates. Salon did a piece a few years ago about him being a closet liberal. Even other freepers have noticed how Gates is a leftist. Some of them have even mentioned it to you personally, as I have. But for whatever reason you refuse to believe it.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1791025/posts
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1566839/posts
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/1749362/posts
http://www.freerepublic.com/forum/a3a5c43eb731f.htm
Here's Gates' political donations. As you look at the list, he appears to be moving further to the left.
http://www.newsmeat.com/billionaire_political_donations/Bill_Gates.php
You've been to busy attacking a leftist named stallman you haven't stopped to notice that you already had one in your own box.
And besides, Torvalds is(one of) the shining star of the OSS movement, not Stallman. But the media does give Stallman alot of love and affection.
If you don't want to accept it, that doesn't change it. Bill Gates, Steve Jobs, and Richard Stallman are all leftists. Some more left wing than others. Look at Sun's embracing of the GPL.
It looks like you had better sell off your computer, no matter what software you use it comes from leftists.
Stallman campaigns for the Green Party and spends his recent time in Cuba, no one else is close.
And besides, Torvalds is(one of) the shining star of the OSS movement, not Stallman.
Torvalds is a foreigner who was raised by well known communists who studied in Moscow. Why are you so anti-American, US products like OSX and Solaris are better anyway.
Other people's hard work.
Please show proof for this accusation.
Leftist blog: High incidence of proprietary software, abnormally high proportion of Macs. Conservative blog: Abnormally high proportion of free software, even full Linux systems.
Free software, the choice of leftists. Don't think so.
Theft is not in that sentence. He disagrees with copyright, but he honors it as far as we know, and himself relies on it to a great extent.
So what has he actually stolen?
Not quite. Stallman started the Free Software movement.
And, he is a bit of a kook, but sometimes kooks do good things, and I think creating the GPL was a good thing.
Without it, we would have little or no competition in the PC software business.
See how this sounds:
Copyright granted on any original work for one non-renewable term of fifty years.
Period.
No exceptions.
Wouldn't that be fairer than the current system?
Copyright granted to registered works only. If you want to take advantage of copyright's incentive, the least you can do is register your work. Copyright lasts for 14 years, with two 14-year renewals allowed. This moves abandoned works into the public domain as they should be.
To accommodate the fast-paced Internet publishing and collaborative online works, all works given a 60-day assumption of registration if properly marked with date as intent to register ("© 12 March 2007" as opposed to "© 2007" for a registered work). The copyright office sets up a server and allows running accounts. All publications such as this need to do is submit newer works within 60-days (can easily be made automated) and pay a nominal registration fee as part of the running account.
From your own link:
The most memorable attack on free software has come from Microsoft - who accused the GNU General Public License (which is at the heart of the way the Linux project works) of being an instrument to destroy (intellectual) property - in effect a tool of communism (in the pure Marxian sense - I don’t think anybody has claimed Richard Stallman is a KGB sleeper - at least I hope they haven’t).
And, you know, they have a point. Free software is in many ways a world of “from each according to their ability, to each according to their need.”
Note that was said by a leftist and OSS lover, who was surprised that conservatives tend to use OSS more than leftists. He thought everybody who uses OSS was like him, but he was wrong.
Most end users are too ignorant to even know it exists yet, or much about it. But communist governments, and the DNC here in the US, are all over it, and using it on their servers.
Don't act surprised, you yourself created a vanity title right here on FR called "Democrats ahead of Republicans on Open Source" back during the last Presidential election that showed Kerry and the DNC running Linux, and Bush and the Republicans running Microsoft. Now you want to claim Democrats don't actually use it, ROFL!
^^^^^^^^Stallman campaigns for the Green Party and spends his recent time in Cuba, no one else is close.^^^^^^^^^^
Once again, I didn't say that Gates and Jobs were the same kind of leftist that Stallman is.
But it's a matter of fact that they are leftists. I'm not the only one who's noticed it.
^^^^^^^^^^Torvalds is a foreigner who was raised by well known communists who studied in Moscow.^^^^^^^^^^^
Gates' parents were also leftists. So what?
^^^^^^^^Why are you so anti-American, US products like OSX and Solaris are better anyway.^^^^^^^^^^^
Red hat has the best OS I've used so far, that includes macs. I've not used solaris.
Besides, with Sun embracing the GPL, the difference would be negligible for me to move from linux to solaris.
I'd still have a commie in my box. Would you approve of me having a communist in my computer as long as it's an american communist?
And you know the context of the thread, clearly explained by me that I thought the Republicans could benefit for practical reasons such as cost (work smarter, have more money left to win the election), yet you still push the lie that it's about ideology for me.
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