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What really happens in out of body experiences (or in near death experiences)
Telegraph ^ | 3/6/07 | Roger Highfield

Posted on 03/07/2007 5:05:33 PM PST by LibWhacker

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1 posted on 03/07/2007 5:05:35 PM PST by LibWhacker
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...Horrible sensations of falling or rising at high speed. Like a lift or driving down a hill. G- acceleration and deceleration. Almost makes you want to throw up.

kinda like seeing Helen Thomas pictures.

2 posted on 03/07/2007 5:09:01 PM PST by Rakkasan1 ((Illegal immigrants are just undocumented friends you haven't met yet!))
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Nah..they're wrong..it's space aliens.


3 posted on 03/07/2007 5:18:03 PM PST by bkepley
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Don't buy it. If you read the accounts of people who have claimed to have near death experiences, they read as accounts of things that the amygdala inadequate to be the mediator for. If one was to account for them with neuronal activity, you'd have to resort to significant activity in the cerebral cortext to get there.

In the end, this article amounts to nothing more than one professor's belief - which, by the way, contradicts what we know about neuroscience.


4 posted on 03/07/2007 5:22:41 PM PST by Old_Mil (Duncan Hunter in 2008! A Veteran, A Patriot, A Reagan Republican... http://www.gohunter08.com/)
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To: Rakkasan1
You asked for it....


5 posted on 03/07/2007 5:23:21 PM PST by Dallas59 (AL GORE STALKED ME ON 2/25/2007!)
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Not surprisingly, these bizarre experiences - called REM intrusions by scientists - are accompanied by fear and terror.

Don't believe out of body experiences that involve feelings of going to the light or seeing angels could be fear or terror

6 posted on 03/07/2007 5:23:25 PM PST by Right in Wisconsin (Have a Happy Day)
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"In the end, this article amounts to nothing more than one professor's belief - which, by the way, contradicts what we know about neuroscience."

It doesn't contradict neuroscience, rather it shows how limited our knowledge is of the brain / mind connection.


7 posted on 03/07/2007 5:38:47 PM PST by Kirkwood
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To: LibWhacker; Shimmer128

I have a friend, (I don't think she would mind me telling her story) who will remain anonymous, who claims she died. She did see Christ, who told her to "hold on to life" and He sent her back. While she was with Him, she noticed a gate with a door. The door was only open a little bit, she could have never passed through.

She came back and is now a Eucharistic Minister to the homebound. She is a wonderful and holy woman.


8 posted on 03/07/2007 5:44:53 PM PST by diamond6 (Everyone who is for abortion has been born. Ronald Reagan)
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To: LibWhacker
"Many times I've left my senses, fought giant serpents, rats upon my bed!" (Edmund-Edmund, Not Insane, Firesign Theatre)
9 posted on 03/07/2007 5:49:14 PM PST by LibKill (Rudy-Lickers LOVE abortion! They ADORE a man in drag! 2nd amdnt Rights? HAH!)
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bttt


10 posted on 03/07/2007 5:53:13 PM PST by aberaussie (Ignorance has a cost.)
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I experience sleep paralysis from time to time. Never had an OBE or an NDE. Mine is the more mundane version as described in the article. It happens when I'm coming awake, but equidistant from both sleep and consciousness. I hear mumbling or laughter or some such thing, often feel like I'm being pulled or sucked down a vortex, all accompanied by an immense feeling of terror that causes me to scream myself awake. The first time it happened, I was pretty scared afterward. Now, I sort of know what to expect, and know that it's natural, so depending on how conscious I am, it's more of an annoyance than anything. Sort of like, "okay, let's get this overwith." Happens very rarely, thankfully.


11 posted on 03/07/2007 5:55:50 PM PST by RepublicanPOTUSin08
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When I was a young man I smoked pot and tried other illicit drugs. I actually OD'd on PCP/speed and was hospitilized for several days before recovering consciousness. I believe I all but died (maybe did die) in this incident. I remember entering heaven. I had on an oversized robe (it didn't fit yet because I wasn't ready for it)and was hooping and hollering that I had actually made it to heaven. People I knew told me I had to go back, it wasn't my time yet. I didn't want to leave, I didn't think I would ever make it back. An unknown young woman told me I had to go back. She got through to me and I said OK. It still took a couple of years before I gave my life completely to Christ. I have come to believe the unknown young woman was my daughter who was born years later and is now a lovely Christian young woman. I know this sounds kookish but I don't think all of this was some biomechanical response to oxygen deprivation/chemical halluicintion, etc. I think it was the mercy of the Living God.


12 posted on 03/07/2007 6:07:55 PM PST by twg123
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Then how do you explain more than one individual who "floated" above the room while doctors feverishly tried (and succeeeded in) to save their lives? These people were able to later describe exactly what happened during their time of "death." The medical personnel were amazed at the details provided.

This is just something I once read and cannot vouch for other than saying that. But if it is so, then there are death experiences no matter what this person in this study says.

13 posted on 03/07/2007 6:12:36 PM PST by OldPossum
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To: RepublicanPOTUSin08
I hear mumbling or laughter or some such thing, often feel like I'm being pulled or sucked down a vortex, all accompanied by an immense feeling of terror that causes me to scream myself awake.

Wow - that's wild stuff. I never heard of this. Do you know what percentage of the population experiences it?

14 posted on 03/07/2007 6:12:45 PM PST by NittanyLion
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Wow - that's wild stuff. I never heard of this. Do you know what percentage of the population experiences it?

No clue. Haven't really looked into it.

15 posted on 03/07/2007 6:18:13 PM PST by RepublicanPOTUSin08
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I have had long periods of time where I have suffered from sleep paralysis. It is indisious and very frightening.


16 posted on 03/07/2007 6:19:53 PM PST by BunnySlippers (RUDY FOR PRESIDENT 2008)
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You may be right, but then you have to wonder just how many NDEs, if any, are what they purport to be, and how many are just our brains giving out. I've heard that folks in Southeast Asia interact with their deities when they experience an NDE.


17 posted on 03/07/2007 6:20:21 PM PST by RepublicanPOTUSin08
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Because the brain turns off the body's ability to move during dreaming,...

Stopped reading right there. That's bull.

A long-long time ago --- I used to pitch softball and during one game, I had a hard-hit line drive right back at my face. I caught the ball with no problem and even doubled the guy off first who had broken for second when the batter swung. I didn't think anything of it at the time.

But that night, this was only a few weeks after I got married, I had a 'flashback dream', where that ball was coming right at my face and I reacted by thrashing my "glove hand" and ended up smacking my sleeping wife right in the face. We both woke up and my bride wondered what the hell hit her and as I tried to explain, --- well, it just made it worse. ;~))

Yes, you can move during dreams.

18 posted on 03/07/2007 6:27:39 PM PST by Ditto
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Yep, I often get the sensation that I'm falling just as I'm drifting off to sleep, then I'll wake up with a start. Very annoying more than anything else because it prevents you from going to sleep no matter how tired you are.

I used to also get frequent out of body experiences when I was a young kid. Always happened when I was wide awake and not near death by any means. Never was scared by them and even looked forward to them. But I haven't had one now in about 40 years.

19 posted on 03/07/2007 6:28:10 PM PST by LibWhacker
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Dallas59, if I have a nightmare tonight, I'll have to blame you for posting Helen Thomas's photo. It makes me nervous.


20 posted on 03/07/2007 6:28:42 PM PST by unkus
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