Posted on 03/07/2007 4:32:54 AM PST by Verax
I live in an open primary state.
And when Hunter is not on the ballot there then what?
There are over a half dozen I would vote for and support to varying degrees. I just will never vote for Rudy McRomney.
Are YOU are Republican or just someone who pretends to be one, too?
And what does Hillary have to do with my question to a NON-Republican?
I guess if your definition of a Republican is someone who votes for the GOP candidate no matter who that is, then Rudy isn't a real Republican. If you wouldn't vote for Hillary if she were the GOP candidate then you aren't either.
Well, sure he can. The question remains as to whether he would.
Actions speak louder than words. When appointing judges in the past, most have been liberal. One can argue the pool of appointees and the appointment system, but the fact remains that the judges he appointed were mostly liberals.
If you don't want to rely on actions, examine Rudy's words. He says that he is pro-choice. He says: "Presidents, going back to the beginning of the republic, generally appoint people on the Supreme Court that they believe agree with them."
Both Rudy's actions and his words indicate that any appointments to the SC very likely could be liberal thinkers. At this point, his current promises don't mean as much to me as his prior words and deeds.
The only thing this guy left out is that the 2006 elections prove his point.
The Democraps did not win in 2006- The Republicraps lost.
Look at Reagan, look at Gingrich in 1994, the biggest landslides ever, pushed HARD CONSERVATIVE~!
The RINO's in 2006 lost it for us.
OH~! and I thought all the OTHER (liberal) newspapers have been telling us all day today how much Guliani is ahead!!??
I will be glad not to take advice from them...
On the contrary, I believe all the Upper South states (AR, TN, VA, and NC) and the Border states (WV, KY, and MO) will be up for grabs. VA and NC are drifting toward the left due to the spillover from the states to the north and east. These Yankees are not the old line white Catholic blue collar workers who abound in PA, NJ, and CT and who should strongly support Giuliani. They are metrosexual, irreligious, and postgraduate types who are decidedly liberal. Indeed, Hillary will have to prove she is liberal enough for these people. NC may still be a GOP victory unless Obama is on the Democratic ticket. 21.6% of the state's population is black. Stronger black turnout due to Obama's presence could cause a rare Democratic win in the Tar Heel State.
Evangelical and gun owner support will naturally drop with Giuliani running, even if third parties are restricted to the de minimis level of the Libertarian Party and the Constitution Party. The loss of these votes will put WV, MO, TN, AR, and even KY at risk. As with NC, Obama running as President or VP could help in TN and AR (both 16% black) and MO (11% black). Don't forget that the Harold Ford political machine in Memphis and Democratic machines in Kansas City and St. Louis are notorious for ballot box stuffing.
The Giuliani forces place too much stake in fear of Hillary as a motivating factor. Bob Dole received very few more votes in 1996 (about 100,000) than the elder Bush did in 1992 despite four years of Clinton sleaze and socialistic initatives.
The Upper South and the Border states will by no means be as safely GOP as they were in 2000 and 2004 with a Giuliani run. The New Yorker needs to look to his native Northeast and California to win the Presidency.
Hope you are having fun with rhetoric but you really need to improve your prose if you want it to make sense. The person I addressed admits he is not a Republican in any case.
Besides it isn't the Republican vote that should be worried about (69.3% of FReepers would vote for Rudy against HIllary) but that of Independents and moderate Democrats. Their defection is what cost us the Nov election and led to that conservative wipeout.
Obviously Republicans vote for the party's nominee for the most part not always. Should the party nominate a certifiable nutcase like Ron Paul/Tancredo I don't know what I would do. But it won't and though not in 100% agreement I will vote for Rudy.
What you are talking about doing is what my mom used to call "cutting off your nose to spite your face". It makes no sense at all. It is people like you who listened to Perot's siren song and got us 8 years of the clintons.
Not at all. "Cutting off your nose to spite your face" involves harming yourself while accomplishing nothing. Witholding your vote to avoid becoming irrevelent is taking a little pain now to avoid a lot of pain later. This is usually refered to as acting mature. Of course shortsited people only see as far as the current election.
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You mean like no way a Bush Sr. judge became the worst liberal on the court?
All dem judges WILL be extremely liberal.
What better reason to back a true conservative in the primaries?
I agree totally, no problem. But the republic would be safe if we have Giuliani as opposed to Clinton.
"on defending Israel, he [Guliani] is staunchly conservative"
Apparently you have one standard of US resolve for the democracy of Israel and another for democracy of Taiwan.
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