Posted on 03/07/2007 4:32:54 AM PST by Verax
You may be surprised to learn that your post did not make it that much easier for me. The stark differences between Rudy and any Dem candidate are crystal clear to me. And aside from mere words, the *actual impact* differences between Rudy and GWB are rather few.
SO? Yes that is the difference between both Hitlary adn Rino Rudy. Not enough to care or vote for. I have 5 issue I am concerned about befor ethe war and Rino Rudy is on the wrong side with Hiltary on all 5.
The poll I'm running on a gun message board for a Hillary vs. Rudy race, third party is running over 2 to 1 against Rudy. The 2nd Amendment crowd will go third party and hope Klinton becomes a pariah like Karter in four years and that they can undo the damage. They are not voting for another RINO... period.
Sadly you are nto alone in your assessment.
He can win, and he will.
"I have 5 issue I am concerned about befor ethe war..."
That's a very telling statement. Explains a lot.
"IT'S ABOUT THE IMMIGRANTS STUPID" and Guliani ain't addressing it.
Yes, Rino Rudy is a flaming lineral. I do not vote for liberals.
I wouldn't exactly call that a valid poll. I'm a gun owner, and I'll bet most of the Rudy supporters here are as well.
No, Rudy is not a flaming liberal, except perhaps among those who have 5 more important issues than America's war for survival against Islamofascism.
Correct. Southern conservatives will not support a Northeastern cosmopolitan "intellectually enlightened elitist" socially liberal secularist, just because he appears tough on the WOT. The latter qualification does not offset the former disqualifications. If the GOP insists on offering him as their candidate, then they are making a conscience decision to forfeit the 2008 presidential election."
Wholeheartedly agree with this statement...
Yes he is. Deal with.
Laughable to believe certifiable nutcases like Tancredo and Paul could beat ANYONE in a National election. Nominating a clown like them would destroy the GOP forever.
Rudy, on the other hand, will wipe the floor with any opponent in the primaries and general election.
To think this guy got PAID to write drivel like this, amazing.
Oh I have one, don't worry about that.
As to Rudy, you bet I'm against him. He stands for and believes in everything I don't. He is also an amoral reprobate. As to National Defense he is a 'Lieberman Democrat', nothing more.
In short he is my enemy.
And please no WOT bullsh*t. There is no 'War On Terror' (one of the stupidist phrases since 'war on poverty'). Terror is a tactic and you don't fight a war against 'tactics'.
No, Rudy is not a flaming liberal, except perhaps among those who have 5 more important issues than America's war for survival against Islamofascism.
That’s true, but it’s hard to address on so many threads.
On that most important issue, I thought Rudy’s speech at CPAC was outstanding. He made the point that, through the use of wiretaps and surveillance, he was able to make great strides against the mafia effectively. Ironically he made that point immediately after criticizing the Clinton administration for treating terrorism as crime. I’ll leave the wiretap/surveillance/gun permit revocations to a discussion of Rudy’s position on rights and judges.
The WOT, and I think Rudy would be effective, involves more than policing and mayoral skills, though leadership is important. It requires a cohesive world view, and understanding of terror, a couple centuries would be nice, but at least a couple decades.
An understanding of the working of the State Dept, often an impediment, and Defence
The legislative process, having established his plan can he get it through Congress. In you face combativeness helps from the bully pulpit, so does a knowledge of the process.
I don’t think military service is a requirement, familiarity with the operations military, not police or fire, both strategically because we’re not dealing with criminals, and institutionally is a definite plus.
Can you convince me that Rudy is clearly superior to Duncan Hunter or Newt Gingrich?
If he’s not head and shoulders above both, I’ve no reason to consider Rudy in view of my concerns about his social positions.
Hunter's campaign ended with the CPAC poll. It just is not admitting it is dead yet.
Especially if Rudy picks a conservative for VP.
Bush couldn't win again so Giuliani can't win because Giuliani is Bush.
Who says so? Voters say so. Bush has ratings in low 30s. Running a 'Bush against an UnBush' will be a disaster for the GOP.
Those pushing the monster Giuliani press hype figure win or lose they will control the GOP and that makes it win-win for the RINOs. This is a battle to control the soul of the GOP as much as the Presidency.
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