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Losing The War - California Government Is Bigger Than Ever
FlashReport ^ | 3/6/07 | Jon Fleischman

Posted on 03/06/2007 12:42:26 PM PST by NormsRevenge

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To: calcowgirl

gov. arnold's done most of the same things as gov. dumby, and has gotten by with it because there were higher taxes collected in the recent years. but that could be changing.


21 posted on 03/06/2007 7:28:19 PM PST by ken21 (it takes a village to brainwash your child + to steal your property! /s)
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To: NormsRevenge
California's Governor IS a Democrat in all but name. Its reflected in his policies.

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelologus

22 posted on 03/07/2007 6:30:21 AM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: cinives
He fooled a lot of people, me included, and I'm under the impression people like McClintock were also fooled. At the last minute, I decided to vote for McClintock because I thought he was a truer conservative. But I never thought Arnold was a closet liberal. Few did.

One guy I heard call him a closet liberal was Michael Savage, but I don't know how he came up with that. What tipped you (and a few others) off from the beginning that he would do this?

23 posted on 03/07/2007 2:40:53 PM PST by Jim W N
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To: ElkGroveDan

He fooled a lot of people, me included, and I'm under the impression people like McClintock were also fooled. At the last minute, I decided to vote for McClintock because I thought he was a truer conservative. But I never thought Arnold was a closet liberal. Few did.
One guy I heard call him a closet liberal was Michael Savage, but I don't know how he came up with that. What tipped you (and a few others) off from the beginning that he would do this?


24 posted on 03/07/2007 2:42:49 PM PST by Jim W N
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To: Jim 0216
What tipped you (and a few others) off from the beginning that he would do this?

What tipped me off to Arnold? For starters conservative vs. liberal are package deals. I have never known a Republican social liberal (abortion gays etc.) who was an at-heart conservative, fiscal included. When they claim to be a "fiscal conservative" that's the first sign for me.

Arnold was pro abortion, pro gay, and a huge backer of arch-RINO former LA Mayor Richard Riordan when Riordan ran for governor against Bill Simon.

Finally, you have to look at who a person surrounds themselves with. The whole Warren Buffet thing was a big tip-off. Finally a guy I know who writes a political column and has worked as a campaign researcher, did some research on Arnold's top- gal Bonnie Reiss. It was posted here on FR http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/979670/posts

25 posted on 03/07/2007 2:57:21 PM PST by ElkGroveDan (When toilet paper is a luxury, you have achieved communism.)
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To: ElkGroveDan
Well, this is a lesson to be learned. Looks like if a guy is a "social liberal" (IE. morally corrupt) it doesn't matter what they say about their politics. How can these people call themselves Republicans? If the Republican party can't be wrenched from the hands of these kinds of people and headed once again by true constitutional conservatives with Christian values, then I think there should be a mass migration to the Constitutional Party.

BTW, this is a preview of coming attractions - the Bible warns of a soon-coming a world leader who will gain power by fooling just about everyone.

26 posted on 03/08/2007 4:13:35 PM PST by Jim W N
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To: NormsRevenge
Fiscal conservatives and our agenda seem to have been swept under the rug.

That was the intent of those who inserted Swartzenkennedy into the middle of the recall.

27 posted on 03/08/2007 4:49:17 PM PST by abigailsmybaby
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To: Jim 0216
What tipped you (and a few others) off from the beginning that he would do this?

Among other reasons, one was that fiscal conservatism cannot provide money for social liberalism. I also did not like his spending priorities, such as promoting extra spending for more long-term government programs when the state was still in Gray Davis' fiscal crisis.

During the recall campaign, Schwarzenegger was pretty open with the fact that he was a social liberal, yet he claimed to be a fiscal conservative. Tom McClintock often asked a rhetorical question along the lines of,
"How do you plan to pay for your socially liberal programs with your fiscally conservative policies?"

28 posted on 03/11/2007 6:39:53 PM PDT by heleny
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To: heleny
That's good insight. I don't know how anyone from the beginning could have predicted he would do this. The only thing I can come up with is that because he is morally compromised/desolate (same as socially "liberal"), when it came time for him to "blow up the boxes" as he promised, instead, when his propositions put him squarely in the enemy's cross-hairs, he folded. A morally deficient ("socially liberal") person in a leadership (especially govenrmrnt leadership) position doesn't have the internal structure that's necessary to withstand the heat which will surely come from the other side. I hope I've learned my lesson.

We've got more of these type vying for 2008 Republican nomination and I believe I will only vote for a true conservative, win, lose or draw.

29 posted on 03/11/2007 8:31:51 PM PDT by Jim W N
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