Posted on 03/04/2007 2:13:52 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
If GWOT is your #1 issue and you have 2 candidates who are equally strong in it, then the supporting issues predominate. And for GWOT, the linked issues are illegal immigration as a security issue, military knowhow, and RKBA so that your militia is readily prepared. Rudy flunks on the supporting issues for GWOT, whereas Duncan Hunter is right on all of them.
If you are "strongly pro-life", and " believe Guiliani really understands and respects the law...."
then how do you reconcile the information from this video?
Culture of life:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RVBtPIrEleM
ABC clip:
George Will: "Do you think Roe v Wade was good constitutional law?"
Rudy Giuliani: "Yes I believe, I believe it is."
Cnn Clip December 2, 1999:
Announcer: "Giuliani was then asked whether he supports a ban on what critics call partial birth abortions, something Bush strongly supports."
Rudy Giuliani : "No, I have not supported that, and I don't see my position on that changing."
Yes, that does make a lot of sense. The voters were punishing Bush in 2006 for the military failures. I just hope that democracy does take root over there. My hunch is that the only ones who will gain from this experience are the Kurds, who are proving to be relatively good allies (at least for what passes as an ally in that part of the world).
a promise which Rudy has made, and can be made to stick to - /This is true and is a FACT./
***It may be a sideways promise but please show us how it is a FACT that rudy can be made to stik to it.
It isn't shameful to them - they wear it with honor around here.
***That makes me sad. I'm running into long term freepers who claim to be surprised that this is a socon website. I think this statement should be more prominent on the front page rather than as a click-through.
Statement by the founder of Free Republic:
In our continuing fight for freedom, for America and our constitution ... continued here.
As a conservative site, Free Republic is pro-God, pro-life, pro-family, pro-Constitution, pro-Bill of Rights, pro-gun, pro-limited government, pro-private property rights, pro-limited taxes, pro-capitalism, pro-national defense, pro-freedom, and-pro America. We oppose all forms of liberalism, socialism, fascism, pacifism, totalitarianism, anarchism, government enforced atheism, abortionism, feminism, homosexualism, racism, wacko environmentalism, judicial activism, etc.
Yes, the CPAC and Spartanburg results have me scratching my head. It reminds me of what was going on in Florida during the recount when Bush's team was calling for more lawyers and the Bushbots said something like, "yeah that's a good idea, that'll muss up their hair." The response was "WTF? muss up their hair? There's BLOOD ON THE GROUND down here. Get me the Mr. Bush NOW."
>>Getting rid of abortion is going to require having appropriate justices in the Supreme Court to overturn Roe vs. Wade, a promise which Rudy has made, and can be made to stick to<<
I apologize for coming in late here - do you happen to have a link or a source where Guiliani promised that?
>>Never in my worst nightmares would I believe Republicans, much less FReepers, would willingly go along with the wholesale slaughter of our helpless unborn generations. Shameful. May God forgive us.<<
You would think that if conservatives agree on nothing else we would always agree on:
1. Upholding the constitution as intended
2. Protecting the country, certainly including protecting those citizens who cannot protect themselves.
I do believe the founders intended that the government should leave the people alone as much as possible, but privacy should not include using privacy to cause harm to innocents. And I can't support someone for President who doesn't feel that way.
I agree with him.
No amount of spinning by anyone..is going to change Giuliani's spoken position on abortion.
He is pro-abortion.
Mr.Robinson is pro-life.....and he takes this stand clearly and often.
Some of you continue to forget this is his website....started by him...and run well by him & his son for 10 years.
His mission statement clearly & specifically states his beliefs and opinions and is available for all to read!!
All of a sudden you don't like his opinions and many are bad mouthing him.
I stand amazed at the man's patience!
If you asked to visit my home....and I let you in....
..and then you proceeded to criticize me often and agressively in my own home...
..I would ask you to leave.
But that's just me!
Yeah, that worked wonders for Ralph Nader and the Green party. Rather than getting uber-but-not-quite-uber-envirowacko-enough Al Gore, they got George Bush. If I were an environmentalist partisan, I'd probably kick myself in the face just thinking about it.
The fact of the matter is, creating a third party only does one thing. It makes politicians write you off, and pushes both parties further from your postion. Voting for Ross Perot got us Clinton. Voting Green got them Bush. And in the end, it didn't do a damn thing for either faction in the long run. Except put them on the sidelines.
"Except put them on the sidelines."
It really isn't about advancing conservatism with a lot of these clowns-- they just want to *feel* angrier-than-thou. That's why they're pushing these loser candidates who have no chance, even when Romney is a reasonable and viable alternative that is reaching out to them. If Hunter made the compromises necessary to show he is viable head-to-head against Hillary!, the activists would desert him in droves. It is as if these people *want* to lose. The feigned outrage over two or three RINO issues is incidental.
So when Hillary! takes office, they can still show us how angry they are. Remember, being an angry conservative first means more to the fringe than being an *American* first, and when Hillary and San Fran Nan do crap like a government takeover of health care, they'll have a lot to be angry about.
Giuliani has said he doesn't believe in abortion - that he will appoint conservative justices. Like it or not he is not pro-abortion. When we get the right mix on the Supreme Court, then things will change. If Hillary or Obama are elected, the aging LIBERAL justices will retire and they will be replaced by the most LIBERAL jurists they can find. I don't think that is something you want to live with because Rudy wasn't "pure" enough for you.
Mr.Robinson is pro-life.....and he takes this stand clearly and often. Some of you continue to forget this is his website....started by him...and run well by him & his son for 10 years. His mission statement clearly & specifically states his beliefs and opinions and is available for all to read!! All of a sudden you don't like his opinions and many are bad mouthing him. I stand amazed at the man's patience! If you asked to visit my home....and I let you in.... ..and then you proceeded to criticize me often and agressively in my own home... ..I would ask you to leave. But that's just me!
Yes! It is just you and other intolerant people who don't believe in free speech. Jim Robinson didn't just start this site to have his back slapped. I believe he started it to spread conservatism and let conservatives find each other and have a voice. The idea of defining others is really abominable. I don't think you want to adopt those tactics.
Scouts Out! Cavalry Ho!
Like you and this site's owner, we also believe in the same principles; where we disagree is how to get those same principles solidified into law.
Judge Stevens is now in his 80's, and his age suggests that either President Bush or the next president will be nominating his replacement. Adding a conservative judge to the Court will be a way to reverse Roe vs Wade.
Letting Hillary or Obama win the presidency (by staying home or voting 3rd party) will guarantee that only liberal judges will be nominated. Roe vs Wade will continue in force for another generation. Neither of us wants that.
Therefore, we MUST find an electable Republican candidate to defeat them. Our way of life and the lives of another 50 million unborn children depend upon it.
I love FR and support it financially, but I am saddened at the present calumny. Let's be civil, even though we disagree.
All of us love our country. None of us needs to be scolded for our opinions about how best to serve it.
That is exactly the way that I feel as well. The problem is so much sin has crept into the "church", that I just don't know if there are enough of us that really care anymore.
So far so good with Duncan Hunter. He's definitely worth keeping an eye on.
Rudy is a tax cutter and law enforcement advocate. He is strong on the GWOT and DOES NOT call for our cutting and running in Iraq.
Are you claiming Hillary fits this mold?
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