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Group Wants Government To Mandate Labels On Restaurant Menus
Cybercast News Service ^ | 02/27/07 | Nathan Burchfiel

Posted on 02/27/2007 1:09:06 PM PST by Froufrou

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To: Publius Valerius
why doesn't it require restaurants to disclose nutritional facts on prepared foods?

Because they're already overburdened with regulations. Restaurants could comply with the public's insatiable desire for more information but that would increase their costs to the point where customer counts would plummet and businesses would no longer be in business. Also, if you like daily specials, you can forget about it since no one is going to take the time every day to analyze their food so some people who never bothered to learn anything about nutrition can have more information. Everything will be the same thing day in and day out. I imagine, in an effort to save us from ourselves, the busybodies will also eventually force us to only eat hamburgers cooked well done and will ban eggs over easy. Make business harder and you'll end up with fewer choices.

Quizno's, for instance, is notorious for keep the nutritional information of its food secret, probably because the food is outrageously bad for you.

If you're concerned about only consuming food that is "good" for you, however that's defined, then most of Quizno's menu should probably be avoided. I find it interesting though that they don't offer nutritional information yet they are the fastest growing franchise in history.

61 posted on 02/27/2007 2:34:57 PM PST by Mase (Save me from the people who would save me from myself!)
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To: TruthConquers

Somewhere, I read about a "conspiracy" of the legal profession...sue everyone for everything, using "You're entitled" and "you have a right to..." Even illegals believe they have a "RIGHT" to protest their non-legal status here. (But don't get me started on THAT!)

I don't recall the rest of it, but this is now a nation where people believe they're "entitled" to welfare, free colleges, and to sue everyone for whatever they can get...the larger the amount the better.

And in the meantime, the people who really need help are paying the price for the scam artists. "Cover-up" comes to mind...


62 posted on 02/27/2007 2:40:22 PM PST by Monkey Face (Never understimate the power of stupid people in large groups. [Congress is in session.])
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To: Publius Valerius; Monkey Face
Sure, I don't care what you do. Eat whatever you want. Why should I care?

Sorry to butt in to your debate, but I'll play Devil's Advocate for a second. You're forgetting about the upcoming socially engineered Second Hand Obesity epidemic. You see, if Monkey Face subsists on a diet of nothing but IHOP breakfasts consisting of western omelettes and 5 pancakes for breakfast and double whopper with cheese with a side of fries for lunch and an all you can eat buffet over at Bob's Big Boy for dinner every day...and then he gets hypertension, type 2 diabetes, gallbladder disease osteoarthritis, sleep apnea, asthma endometrial cancer or high blood pressure...

Now it's my business and your business. I'm paying for his medical care through higher taxes going towards socialized healthcare programs like Medicare, Medicaid and whatever future collectivist Universal Healthcare program some liberal Dem shoves down our throat for the "greater good". Plus, my private insurance through work will go from $500/mo. to $1,100 per month.

63 posted on 02/27/2007 2:41:18 PM PST by Eric Blair 2084 (Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms shouldn't be a federal agency...it should be a convenience store.)
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To: Eric Blair 2084
"If normal people really knew what our true agenda was, they would never allow it in a free country. We learned about incrementalism from our idols in anti-tobacco. You need to start out slowly by saying things like "All we want are non-smoking sections on these airplanes." Get the sheeple conditioned to being controlled for their own good, one step at a time."

I agree with your sentiment Eric, but CSPI do NOT have idols in anti tobacco, they are, and have always been, part of anti-tobacco.

Follow the money, friend.........CSPI has ties to PETA and RWJF....the goal is to destroy the food and hospitality industries.

64 posted on 02/27/2007 2:41:18 PM PST by Gabz (I like mine with lettuce and tomato, heinz57 and french-fried potatoes)
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To: Mase
Restaurants could comply with the public's insatiable desire for more information but that would increase their costs to the point where customer counts would plummet and businesses would no longer be in business.

As I've said repeatedly, I'm not in favor of regulation. I would like to see market pressures require restaurants to disclose this information, which, to a large extent, they already have.

Leaving that aside, I think that the objections that people have brought up are just not true. As I've mentioned before, the argument that it is cost prohibitive doesn't seem to be valid in light of the number of restaurants that already provide this information. Further, as I've stated before, I can sit in my kitchen and calculate the nutrition facts of any meal that I prepare in less than five minutes. This is super burdensome?

65 posted on 02/27/2007 2:41:22 PM PST by Publius Valerius
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To: Eric Blair 2084

I know that was tongue-in-cheek, but I seriously doubt that's all that far off.


66 posted on 02/27/2007 2:42:18 PM PST by Publius Valerius
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To: Publius Valerius
...let people know the information so they can make an informed choice...

If you care so much about reducing your meal to a formula then you're free to carry around a reference manual for foods and pull out your calculator at the table. But I don't care to have them take my steak and send it out to the lab, wait a couple weeks for the results, then staple a label to it before they bring it out.

Sort of ruins the ambiance. :-)

67 posted on 02/27/2007 2:44:36 PM PST by Ramius ([sip])
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To: Publius Valerius
I'm not in favor of regulation.

I really, really, don't believe you.

68 posted on 02/27/2007 2:46:05 PM PST by Ramius ([sip])
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To: Gabz

You're getting way to technical for the regualar FReeper folks here to understand. Suffice it to say that CSPI leaves the tobacco companies alone, not out of benevolence. It's all pretty disgusting. I'm not going to make any explicit accusations. Just saying...

Hint: Think mafia and protection money. If you pay us, somebody might not accidentally burn your place to the ground.


69 posted on 02/27/2007 2:46:07 PM PST by Eric Blair 2084 (Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms shouldn't be a federal agency...it should be a convenience store.)
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To: Eric Blair 2084
...and then he gets hypertension, type 2 diabetes, gallbladder disease osteoarthritis, sleep apnea, asthma endometrial cancer or high blood pressure...

*ahem* While I understand your argument and agree with most of it, I feel compelled to state that I'm a SHE, I'm hypoglycemic (the opposite of diabetic), my gall bladder was removed 27 years ago through private insurance, I have very strong bones due to exercise, I don't suffer from sleep problems, I have allergy related asthma which I treat with OTC meds, and I don't have cancer or high blood pressure. Ohyah...and I'm within 20 pounds of my highschool weight, which was 147. And I'm 5'9" tall...;o])

70 posted on 02/27/2007 2:48:03 PM PST by Monkey Face (Never understimate the power of stupid people in large groups. [Congress is in session.])
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To: Ramius
I really, really, don't believe you.

I really, really, don't care.

71 posted on 02/27/2007 2:51:45 PM PST by Publius Valerius
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To: Publius Valerius

Figured as much.


72 posted on 02/27/2007 2:55:18 PM PST by Ramius ([sip])
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To: Ramius

But yet you felt compelled to say it anyway, just to be obnoxious. What a guy!


73 posted on 02/27/2007 2:58:28 PM PST by Publius Valerius
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To: theDentist
Hey, tD.............this is who is telling you what to eat:

Michael F. Jacobson, PhD.......a PhD in microbiology.....

74 posted on 02/27/2007 3:00:15 PM PST by Gabz (I like mine with lettuce and tomato, heinz57 and french-fried potatoes)
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To: Monkey Face

Whose business is it what I eat, how often, where and when? Are any of those busybodies offering to pay my rent? My health insurance? My grocery bills? If not, they need to stay the eff out of my face and let me eat what I darn well please...."

I couldn't have stated it better. Thank You.


75 posted on 02/27/2007 3:01:11 PM PST by ridesthemiles
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To: Publius Valerius
That's true, but if I go to the grocery store and buy a steak or a pound of hamburger, I can read the nutritional information right on the label of the steak or hamburger.

It must be an individual business decision, because other than fat content on ground beef, only pre-packaged (not instore packaged) meats have nutritional information on them where I do my grocery shopping.

76 posted on 02/27/2007 3:03:23 PM PST by Gabz (I like mine with lettuce and tomato, heinz57 and french-fried potatoes)
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To: ridesthemiles

Don't mention it!

I've never been known for tact and diplomacy, so I'm not one to call a spade anything but a spade! (Unless it's big, then it's a shovel!)


77 posted on 02/27/2007 3:03:35 PM PST by Monkey Face (Never understimate the power of stupid people in large groups. [Congress is in session.])
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To: Monkey Face
*ahem* While I understand your argument and agree with most of it, I feel compelled to state that I'm a SHE, I'm hypoglycemic (the opposite of diabetic), my gall bladder was removed 27 years ago through private insurance, I have very strong bones due to exercise

Sorry ma'am. I think everybody here understands that I couldn't pick you out of a police line up if my life depended on it. I don't know you, although it's a pleasure to meet you now.

I was just trying to make a point and you happened to be in the wrong place at the wrong time. The same argument can be made for Al Gore and Ted Kennedy.


78 posted on 02/27/2007 3:04:13 PM PST by Eric Blair 2084 (Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms shouldn't be a federal agency...it should be a convenience store.)
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To: Gabz

I dunno, but the last time I saw ingredients on a "meat" package, it was mostly "vegetable protein." Fat contect is good enough for me!


79 posted on 02/27/2007 3:04:56 PM PST by Monkey Face (Never understimate the power of stupid people in large groups. [Congress is in session.])
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To: Monkey Face

I didn't see where they were trying to change the food that restaurants serve. What's wrong with knowing the calorie and fat count of the food you're eating?


80 posted on 02/27/2007 3:05:58 PM PST by Kathy in Calif
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