Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

Skip to comments.

"Respect Conservatism" - Rudy Giuliani's distinctive brand?
Weekly Standard ^ | 2/26/07 | Ross Douthat & Reihan Salam

Posted on 02/26/2007 7:08:07 AM PST by areafiftyone

click here to read article


Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first previous 1-2021-4041-6061-80 ... 181-184 next last
To: Peach
What a terrific, terrific article. So much for the looneytoons on Free Republic who wish to paint Rudy as a liberal.

Co-authored by an Associate editor at the Atlantic Monthly. Now thre's an authority on conservatism.

41 posted on 02/26/2007 7:51:48 AM PST by garv (Conservatism in '08 www.draftnewt.org)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 15 | View Replies]

To: garv

Don't like that one then check out this one by conservative FrontPage magazine, which says the same thing.

Or check out Michael Reagan, which says the same things.

http://frontpagemag.com/Articles/ReadArticle.asp?ID=26604


42 posted on 02/26/2007 7:53:09 AM PST by Peach
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 41 | View Replies]

To: Corin Stormhands

Well, I guess you told me, though I don't know anyone who read Tolkien past, gee I dunno, their sophomore year.
So let's make nice. What do you think of `Charlotte's Webb'? Alien Ant Farm--they really rock, don't they?


43 posted on 02/26/2007 7:59:05 AM PST by tumblindice (Duncan Hunter: he's not for abortion, amnesty or gun control)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 40 | View Replies]

To: garv

"Now there's an authority on conservatism."

Also New Republic. And the other one writes for MSN Slate.
Groovy....


44 posted on 02/26/2007 8:02:32 AM PST by tumblindice (Rudi-Ents looking for their Ent-wives)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 41 | View Replies]

To: tumblindice; HairOfTheDog; ecurbh; 2Jedismom; JenB; RosieCotton; SuziQ; Lil'freeper; Sam Cree; ...
Well, I guess you told me, though I don't know anyone who read Tolkien past, gee I dunno, their sophomore year.

Really? You need to get out more.

(y'all s'cuse the ping to a Rudy thread, but I just thought you'd have to see this)

45 posted on 02/26/2007 8:03:01 AM PST by Corin Stormhands (Anti-Rudy Oompa Loopmas: Necessary to the plot, but still repetitive and annoying.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 43 | View Replies]

To: Peach
I've read all of them. Here's a good rule of thumb, if it takes you 500 words to try and convince people someone's a "conservative" they're not.

Every article is a rehash of a basic theme, Rudy cleaned up the streets of NYC, cut a few taxes and generally appeared to be somewhat to the right of the typical Marxist city governance. It does not make him a conservative.

There is no such thing as "respect" conservatism, just like we all found out there is no such thing as "compassionate" conservatism. If it needs a modifier, it aint conservatism.

46 posted on 02/26/2007 8:07:06 AM PST by garv (Conservatism in '08 www.draftnewt.org)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 42 | View Replies]

To: garv
Every article is a rehash of a basic theme, Rudy cleaned up the streets of NYC, cut a few taxes and generally appeared to be somewhat to the right of the typical Marxist city governance.

Absolutely 100% ignorant drivel.

47 posted on 02/26/2007 8:09:10 AM PST by Peach
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 46 | View Replies]

To: Corin Stormhands

Let's try to stay on topic here, Corin.
Rudy supports--or to give him the benefit of the doubt-- does not oppose: "restrictions" on the 2nd Amendment, abortion or amnesty for illegal alien invaders.
So tell me Mr. Stormhands: how can one advance those issues and still remain a conservative?
You can open your bluebook now. Try to avoid invective, please.


48 posted on 02/26/2007 8:09:16 AM PST by tumblindice (Duncan Hunter for President, 2008)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 45 | View Replies]

To: tumblindice

You brought up the issue of the screen name.

Have you read the article?


49 posted on 02/26/2007 8:10:42 AM PST by Corin Stormhands (Anti-Rudy Oompa Loopmas: Necessary to the plot, but still repetitive and annoying.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 48 | View Replies]

To: kellynch

Certain principles and core values are what keeps me a registered Republican despite what I've seen happen to this country over the past 18 years or so (10 of which has been under Republican leadership). I still believe to the death in the Constitution (and the Bill of Rights therein), state's rights, abolishing gun control, abortion reform, the protection of marriage, closed borders, strong but smart national DEFENSE, property rights, personal soverignty, civil liberty, going above and beyond for our military, and most of all small government. And when a candidate, even if he is more likely to win, violates more of those principles than he enforces, I won't vote for him or her. Period. I voted for Bush II twice, and got burned for it because I voted with the party and not principles (even though he seemed like a good candidate in 2000). But I voted for Rick Santorum in 2006, even though he had basically no shot at winning. And I still feel good about that vote because Santorum was a great Senator and a true conservative. Point is, I refuse to vote for Rudy based on one week of PR in New York 6 years ago or because he has a better chance to beat Hitlery. I wouldn't be against adding him as a VP as long as we had a good candidate to lead the ticket.


50 posted on 02/26/2007 8:11:24 AM PST by Rob Bishop (Revereradio.net)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 27 | View Replies]

To: tumblindice

This thread gives a nice summary for you:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/1791356/posts


51 posted on 02/26/2007 8:11:41 AM PST by Corin Stormhands (Anti-Rudy Oompa Loopmas: Necessary to the plot, but still repetitive and annoying.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 48 | View Replies]

To: tumblindice

When writers from those, ahem, publications are telling you someone is "conservative" watch your back.


52 posted on 02/26/2007 8:12:27 AM PST by garv (Conservatism in '08 www.draftnewt.org)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 44 | View Replies]

To: tumblindice
Another good summary of Rudy's record is here: The Rudy Record

If you will read both the link to the thread I gave you as well as this page, you will see multiple reasons why I, as a conservative, can support Rudy.

I'm sorry I don't have time to copy and paste them all here for you on the thread.

But the reasons are there.

53 posted on 02/26/2007 8:15:08 AM PST by Corin Stormhands (Anti-Rudy Oompa Loopmas: Necessary to the plot, but still repetitive and annoying.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 48 | View Replies]

To: Peach
Absolutely 100% ignorant drivel

Thanks for the enlightening reply, it surpasses your usual level of nonsense. Since I lived in NYC during both the Dinkins and Giuliani administrations I think I'll trust my judgement.

54 posted on 02/26/2007 8:16:47 AM PST by garv (Conservatism in '08 www.draftnewt.org)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 47 | View Replies]

To: Graybeard58

Stop crying to JR.


55 posted on 02/26/2007 8:18:48 AM PST by areafiftyone (RUDY GIULIANI 2008 - STRENGTH AND LEADERSHIP)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 26 | View Replies]

To: Corin Stormhands

"Have you read the article?"
Yes sir. And if this is NR's official opinion, I'm cancelling my subscription, as I cancelled the Weekly Standard when they came out in favor of amnesty.

"Liberals are like the dog food company president who furiously demands to know why their dog food isn't selling. `We've got the snappiest jingles,' he rails, `the best agronomists, the slickest advertising campaign, the best billboards, the flashiest labels! Why aren't people buying our dogfood?'"
Finally, an employee meekly explains:
`The dogs don't like it.'"

Samizdat Media, p. 91, "Slander", that blonde bombshell

I keep noting that Rudy's supporters can `tap-dance' like Richard Gere on these three issues.


56 posted on 02/26/2007 8:19:07 AM PST by tumblindice (And if you talk about abortion, well, don't you know that you can count me out?)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 49 | View Replies]

To: tumblindice
I keep noting that Rudy's supporters can `tap-dance' like Richard Gere on these three issues.

At least we've got a candidate who can afford the shoes.

57 posted on 02/26/2007 8:20:55 AM PST by Corin Stormhands (Anti-Rudy Oompa Loopmas: Necessary to the plot, but still repetitive and annoying.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 56 | View Replies]

To: garv

"drivel"
I see you are discussing the issues with another Giuliani supporter.
They kiss their mothers with those mouths . . . .


58 posted on 02/26/2007 8:22:47 AM PST by tumblindice (And if you talk about abortion, well, don't you know that you can count me out?)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 54 | View Replies]

To: Graybeard58

You whiners who ping Jim to every post are pathetic.

And if you really think that Rudy supporters are treasonous liberals, then I'll just put you in the category of yet another looney toon. It's a growing club here at FR.


59 posted on 02/26/2007 8:23:09 AM PST by Peach
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 26 | View Replies]

To: Corin Stormhands

But the gerbils . . . who buys your gerbils? ;^)


60 posted on 02/26/2007 8:24:36 AM PST by tumblindice (uno dos tres cuatro cinco cinco seis--alll the girls say I'm pretty fly for a white guy.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 57 | View Replies]


Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first previous 1-2021-4041-6061-80 ... 181-184 next last

Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.

Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson