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Libby (Trial) Update {Juror Dismissed From Case }
NRO (The Corner) ^ | 2/26/07 | Byrion York

Posted on 02/26/2007 6:57:45 AM PST by PhatHead

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To: JerseyDvl

That might be hard to avoid in DC.


281 posted on 02/26/2007 10:40:49 AM PST by SmithL (si vis pacem, para bellum)
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To: JerseyDvl
In 2004, DC went 89.18% for Kerry, 0.65% for Nader and 9.34% for Bush.

And when I lived down there, the DC gov't couldn't even plow the snow. Amazing.

282 posted on 02/26/2007 10:44:14 AM PST by Sooth2222 ("We have met the enemy and he is us." -Pogo)
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To: PhatHead
The jury has been given two imposible tasks.

The first is to remain ignorant and secluded from modern communications and interaction with others. Defies both reason and human nature.

The second is the jury has been asked to decide something not possible if viewed with a modern understanding of memory.

Below is a quote from Dr. Daniel Schacter’s book, The Seven Sins of Memory. Dr. Schacter is professor and chairman of Harvard’s Department of Psychology. He is the single, most quoted authority on memory. The purpose of this quote is to outline the real nature of memory.

“…As I showed in my earlier book, Searching For Memory, we tend to think of memories as snapshots from family albums that, if stored properly, could be retrieved in precisely the same condition in which they were put away. But now we know that we do not record our experiences the way a camera records them. Our memories work differently. We extract key elements from our experiences and store them. We then recreate or reconstruct our experiences rather than retrieve copies of them. Sometimes, in the process of reconstructing we add our feelings, beliefs or even knowledge we obtained after the (memory) experience. In other words, we bias our memories of the past by attributing to them emotions or knowledge we acquired after the event….”

Page 9 of Houghton Mifflin paper back edition 2001.

The judge ruled out any testimony on this subject. Further, Defense had Elizabeth Loftus lined up. She is a forensic expert on memory vis a vis the law and so forth. The judge either out of ignorance or bias gave the Jury two impossible tasks of which the last (nature of memory)is unforgivable.

283 posted on 02/26/2007 10:51:09 AM PST by shrinkermd
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To: the Real fifi

power, celebrity, an appointment to a high level job at DOJ if a Dem wins the presidency in 2008.


284 posted on 02/26/2007 10:55:58 AM PST by oceanview
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To: PhatHead

"tainted" juror? Musta found out Joe Wilson was a liar.


285 posted on 02/26/2007 10:56:27 AM PST by Stultis (I don't worry about the war turning into "Vietnam" in Iraq; I worry about it doing so in Congress.)
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To: shrinkermd
Actually, the witness Libby had lined up was Robt Bjork.

Judge Reggie Walton, in an opinion Thursday, wrote the testimony of memory export, Dr. Robert Bjork, chairman UCLA's psychology department, would be a "waste of time," and could mislead and confuse a jury.MSNBC News Nov 2 06

However, Elizabeth Loftus was called by the defense as their witness at the hearing on whether the memory expert would be allowed. In one of his many rulings favoring the prosecution, Judge Walton cited Fitzgerald's "skillful cross-examination" of Dr. Loftus in his written decision denying the use of a memory expert. Judge Walton said the jury could simply rely on their own everyday experience in judging the memory issues in the case.

286 posted on 02/26/2007 11:06:57 AM PST by San Jacinto
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To: Jack Black
Over at the DUmpster, they truly believe that Libby is guilty, because they say so, not because of what the evidence says. In fact, I have copied a line from there that sums up their entire Fitzmas delusion.

I'm afraid this guy might take that "beyond a shadow of a doubt" a little too literally, and still be able to deny something like, the Russert charge, which only requires the smallest amount of common sense, but still can't be proven mathematically.

287 posted on 02/26/2007 11:10:33 AM PST by codercpc
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To: scratcher

Back at 'cha.


288 posted on 02/26/2007 11:13:58 AM PST by REDWOOD99
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To: AZRepublican
Wonder if Fritz will retry Scooter if there is a hung jury?

Why not, he doesn't have to pay for it.

289 posted on 02/26/2007 11:15:43 AM PST by pepperhead (Kennedy's float, Mary Jo's don't!)
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To: tiredoflaundry

Outside info and it got to the jury, and sounds like a great case for mistrial.


290 posted on 02/26/2007 11:28:24 AM PST by agincourt1415 (The Sum of all Fears: Democrats running the war or trying to run away from the war on terror.)
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To: Sooth2222
And when I lived down there, the DC gov't couldn't even plow the snow. Amazing.

Still can't - the new mayor is the worst yet. I'd rather have Barry back. Barry would tow your car in a heartbeat if you parked on the Snow Emergency Route. All last week, untowed cars were parked on top of hills of unplowed snow along the route by my office.

291 posted on 02/26/2007 11:52:47 AM PST by nina0113
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To: codercpc

Yeah, we don't want the judge taking that "shadow of a doubt" standard too literally.

My G*d, these ignoramuses are whacked.


292 posted on 02/26/2007 11:58:55 AM PST by WhistlingPastTheGraveyard ("and alllll the children are insane")
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To: Iwo Jima

Apparently the dismissed juror (according to other threads on FR, who knows what the truth is) started the proceedings by repeating a joke about the case she had heard on TV.


293 posted on 02/26/2007 12:07:03 PM PST by AmishDude (It doesn't matter whom you vote for. It matters who takes office.)
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To: WhistlingPastTheGraveyard

Libby: Lights Out [Byron York]


The power has gone out at the federal courthouse where the Libby jury is deliberating. The media room is lit by the screens of dozens of battery-powered laptops.

02/26 03:05 PM


294 posted on 02/26/2007 12:07:25 PM PST by AmishDude (It doesn't matter whom you vote for. It matters who takes office.)
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To: oceanview

Was it the non valentine's day shirt wearing juror that was tossed, I wonder?


295 posted on 02/26/2007 12:10:20 PM PST by sportutegrl (This thread is useless without pix.)
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To: AmishDude

bTTT


296 posted on 02/26/2007 12:13:00 PM PST by Txsleuth
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To: codercpc
Over at the DUmpster, they truly believe that Libby is guilty, because they say so, not because of what the evidence says. In fact, I have copied a line from there that sums up their entire Fitzmas delusion.

When I heard Scooter agreed to go with 11 jurors and Fitz wanted to seat an alternate, that told me all I need to know how the lawyers who actually tried the case feel about how it went.

297 posted on 02/26/2007 12:13:02 PM PST by colorado tanker
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To: sportutegrl

Yes.


298 posted on 02/26/2007 12:13:39 PM PST by Jack Black
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To: nina0113
"I'd rather have Barry back. Barry would tow your car in a heartbeat if you parked on the Snow Emergency Route. "

Maybe Barry was in jail when I was down there. When I lived in suburban MD during the "golden days" of Ronaldus Magnus' first term we were hit by a bad snowstorm. On Massachusetts Avenue where it was 3 lanes the snow was piled into the right hand lane. People from the neighborhoods on either side of the street couldn't get through the snowpile (and into the unplowed streets) so they parked their cars in the middle lane. That left one lane, the left lane, for traffic.

There was one bottleneck driving home and I was in amazed to see that the DC police had booted a car parked in the middle lane!!!! So the guy or gal couldn't move the car if he or she wanted to!

Honestly, when I think of Democrats running America, I just think of DC and get the chills. They're not just corrupt, they push the outer envelope for world-class incompetence.

299 posted on 02/26/2007 12:16:05 PM PST by Sooth2222 ("We have met the enemy and he is us." -Pogo)
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To: NoBullZone

I agree.....have all media organizations fired proof readers???

The only way to ensure jurors do not encounter any information relating to the trial is to sequester them. I cannot understand why that wasn't done in this case other than the case was a farce and fishing expedition from the onset.


EODGUY


300 posted on 02/26/2007 12:18:58 PM PST by EODGUY (“The pain inflicted by your country’s indifference is tenfold that inflicted by your ruthless captor)
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