Canadian Court Limits Detention in Terror Cases (Canadian liberalism alert)

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[Princip. Conservative]

"Note my point with respect to your apparent willful ignorance regarding the huge qualitative differences in our respective forms of national government & as well a FR homepage (posted long before your arrival here) which openly concedes the self-evident superiority of the U.S. Constitution & countless subsequent posts also stating that view."

Well, the US Constitution is superior to that of Canada and to any other in the world. I don't think that's really in question.

"If you're one of these plainly illogical statist morons, I certainly wasn't aware of as much previously."

If I misunderstood your remark, I apologize.

"DUH !!! ... one assumes for pretty much the same set of reasons the CBS Evening News et al don't commence their nightly broadcasts with a heartfelt rendition of 'God Bless America' ???
SHEESH !!!
Dumbest question ... ever !?!?"

No, actually not. There's news of conservative things happening almost every day in the United States and you don't have to hack into the national news agency websites to find it, either. The truth is that when good, conservative things happen, the media often screams the loudest because they don't like it - not always, but often. I think you need to wake up a bit from your 'Canada is actually conservative' milieu. I wish it were true, but the facts deny it. Like I said earlier, I wish Stephen Harper the best. He has an unenviable job and he's one of the few bright spots in Canada these days. I wish him and you well.

[GMMAC]

"... North American Union plans, be it the officially named SPP ..."

... in fairness though newbie, you've got sifting through this paranoid nonsense a lot tougher Stateside with xenophobic moonbats coming at you from both extreme ends of your political spectrum.

Up here, virtually all of our ultra-nationalist vermin (e.g. Mel Hurtig, Maude Barlow, etc.) reside way, way out in furthest left field.

It's also not difficult making the case Stephen Harper was considerably more influenced in his formative years by Ronald Reagan & Margaret Thatcher (God bless them both!) than your current President ... not that I'm particularly knocking 'W' otherwise.

[kanawa]

"The population of Canada is 14 million less than the number of people that voted for John Kerry."

Now, you CAN do much better than that.

So, hopefully, can you.

[jimfree]

Right after a post on school punishments I read something about folks on detention.

[Rob Bishop]

So you're cute little graphic dismisses years of evidence? What do you make of the TransTexas Corridor? You know, a highway from Mexico to Canada with no US jurisdiction whose toll funds go to a Spanish company? This is a battle you can't win with some smarmy catchphrases.

[GMMAC]

"There's news of conservative things happening almost every day in the United States and you don't have to hack into the national news agency websites to find it, either."

Oh please!
Talk about employing selective & self-serving tunnel vision to evade reality!
We can pick & choose media bias & its sorry results all day long - like public support for our WOT mission in Afghanistan, at least for now, being marginally higher than yours for your mission in Iraq - but it hardly makes relentless msm bias & negativism any less of a problem on either side of the border.

Besides your on-going ignoring by apparent choice of numerous - not all necessarily bad or good - fundamental differences between our countries, you continue refusing to acknowledge a self-evident reality that's existed all through recorded history:
For a host of practical reasons, those outside of a great power will, in the main, always be considerably more familiar with its inner workings, etc. than its citizens will be of the numerous lands beyond its borders.
This was true in our Lord's time with respect to Rome, between Russia & its Soviet-era satellite countries & remains accurate today where America is concerned.

[GMMAC]

"This is a battle you can't win with some smarmy catchphrases."

Given, like many, I dismiss outright the whole notion of any such conspiracy based in large part on the known moonbat track records of far too many of its principal advocates ...

WND (snort!) earnestly reporting on 'secret' - but apparently quite open - meetings in Banff & taking America-hating Mel Hurtig seriously on any count is farce in the highest degree.
In short, it's the latest warmed-over version of the Perrot endorsed paranoid anti-NAFTA crap which - sadly for America - split the right & ultimately resulted in 8 long years of Bill Clinton in the White House.
Good neighborly advice: keep it simple, ignore the conspiracy buffs & concentrate on policing your southern border.

[Rob Bishop]

Yeah, he wasn't right about NAFTA or anything was he?

My friend, this goes beyond World Net Daily or even Lou Dobbs. You've got the CFR backing it, in fact they were the ones who organized The Independent Task Force on North America (with, ironically, the Canadain Council of Chief Executives, and Mexico's CFR). You've got conservativeusa.org condemning it (http://www.conservativeusa.org/nau-media.htm). Tom Tancredo is leading the way on House Res 487 which you can read about here http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/bdquery/z?d109:h.con.res.00487:. I think you need to wake up and help us stop this, it's going to hurt Canada as much as it will the US. Then again, you folks up north seem to love socialism so maybe it'll suit ya'll just fine.

As far as the North American Corridor, check out http://www.corridorwatch.org/ttc/index.htm and http://www.texastollparty.com/action_tellYourReps2.php.

[Princip. Conservative]

"Oh please!
Talk about employing selective & self-serving tunnel vision to evade reality!
We can pick & choose media bias & its sorry results all day long - like public support for our WOT mission in Afghanistan, at least for now, being marginally higher than yours for your mission in Iraq - but it hardly makes relentless msm bias & negativism any less of a problem on either side of the border."

Your point was that the implication that the media doesn't report on conservative happenings in Canada. The truth is more socially conservative things happen in America than in Canada. You and I both know this to be true.

"Besides your on-going ignoring by apparent choice of numerous - not all necessarily bad or good - fundamental differences between our countries, you continue refusing to acknowledge a self-evident reality that's existed all through recorded history:"

Superficially correct, but practically fallible. Differences between our countries doesn't mean it's okay to have legalized gay marriage, prostitution and a very liberal social code.

"For a host of practical reasons, those outside of a great power will, in the main, always be considerably more familiar with its inner workings, etc. than its citizens will be of the numerous lands beyond its borders.
This was true in our Lord's time with respect to Rome, between Russia & its Soviet-era satellite countries & remains accurate today where America is concerned."

I do understand your point that you live in Canada and I do not and therefore you have a more personal experience with it. However, it doesn't change the enormous seemingly ever-growing moral chasm that gulfs our two nations.

[fanfan]

There's news of conservative things happening almost every day in the United States and you don't have to hack into the national news agency websites to find it, either.

Is that why Rush Limbaugh has such a large following?

What's your point with that statement anyway?

I think you need to wake up a bit from your 'Canada is actually conservative' milieu. I wish it were true, but the facts deny it.

Please cite examples with links.

Thank you.

[fanfan]

Rob Bishop
Since Jan 19, 2007


Hello Rob.

You seem very worried about this subject.

[exg]

Hi fanfan !

[fanfan]

Hi EXG!
How are you doing?


Great picture!
I was there too. What a great time we had at the "Wear Red rally" at Parliament Hill.

More than 10,000, at noon on a Friday.

:-D

[Rob Bishop]

When my nation's soverignty is under attack from within and out, I tend to take it seriously.

[GMMAC]

Please stop telling me what I know to be true while reluctantly & only partially conceding my point Canadians generally are more aware - for a host of reasons - of what goes on Stateside than Americans are in the reverse.
As a good example Can-AM selective non reporting & reminded by my FRiend's post above:

Then Opposition Leader Stephen Harper
(in the midst of driving sleet / freezing temps)
addresses 'Friends of America' rally held in
the heart of 'Liberal Toronto' 4/02/03
(& one of many organized across Canada)

I'd add, never once has Canada failed come to America's aid in time of any domestic catastrophe but yet again - and not withstanding your usual subsequent backpedaling - your initial sniping comment "With friends like these, who needs enemies?" clearly reveals you personally as an arrogantly unappreciative neighbor as well as unrepresentative of the vast majority of your fellow countrymen.

[fanfan]

Look, Maurice Strong and George Soros might try to take over the world, but I can assure you that no Canadian FReeper of good standing will be trying it anytime soon.

PS. Human nature ensures that any nation with sovereignty will always be under some sort of attack.. We 'all' will just have to deal with that.

No need to alienate people.

[GMMAC]

"When my nation's soverignty is under attack from within and out, I tend to take it seriously."

That would be "sovereignty" (btw, the "spell" button is on the left - just below the post composition box, newbie) & lots of even your own fellow American conservatives would add the word "imagined" with respect to any statement reflecting the 'attack' you're specifically talking about.

[kanawa]

Does social liberalism and judicial activism exist in the United States? Absolutely. But the difference is - we're doing something about it. I truly hope that conservative Canadians do get somewhere in what they're doing, but why don't we ever hear anything about it?

G, my 'puters acting up and I can't get more than one window open at a time.
Do you have the links handy for the recent changes being made to judiciary appointments?

[exg]

Doing good thanks!

[GMMAC]

Here's a couple:
Liberals have stacked courts for years ~ Lorne Gunter, Edmonton Journal, February 16, 2007
Judges with attitude ~ National Post: Editorial, February 22, 2007

... also Remarks at 9/11 Commemoration Ceremony With Citizens of Halifax
~ Secretary Condoleezza Rice, September 11, 2006
From Vancouver, B.C. to Chalmette, Louisiana ~ CTV News, September 6, 2005
"They were the first ones there and I know a lot of the people in the town were very surprised that the first rescue team that came was from Canada." ~ Kellie Richards, Karina survivor
"The Canadian caper" (1979-80 rescue of U.S. Diplomats from Iran) ~ Wikipedia

... and the likely all-time crowd-pleaser: "The Americans"
~ Gordon Sinclair, CFRB Radio, June 5, 1973 (Background)