Posted on 02/24/2007 7:40:00 PM PST by Paleo Conservative
The law forbids such a list of who opts out. There is a list of those who request the form.
However, how many knew this before? And did or did not the Governor' action increase the knowledge of the general public (and terrify the more totalitarian docs) about the opt out?
No such charges in Texas - although I've heard that Medicaid patients have been (illegally and fraudulently) threatened with losing Medicaid if they don't get all the recommended shots.
See my post 19 above. How many people were made aware of the opt out by the strong position in the Governor's EO? He added that note purposefully to call attention to the opt out on this vaccine, while he could have just left alone, since there's already Statutory law that's in place.
What does "executive officer of the State" mean to you?
Homeschoolers fight bogus poisoning claim
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1785923/posts
The social worker crumpled a document the mother handed her explaining why she wouldn't allow her entry into the home, then yelled that she would "come in now" and do a strip search of one of the children.
The tirade had been triggered by an anonymous tipster, accusing the family of "only allowing their two boys to listen to Christian music." The tipster also said the children "ate their Cheerios dry" and got nearly all their "socialization through their church."
Oh, the horrors.
As I said, this is *Texas.* My own rep's wife home schools 6 of their 7 children - one is in college. I fought tooth and nail for him against the incumbent RINO - and she retaliated in her own way
http://www.statesman.com/blogs/content/shared-gen/blogs/austin/legislature/entries/2006/04/24/casteel_passes_on_introducing_a_doc.html
Maybe the Governor needs an emergency to justify directing agencies, businesses, and private individuals outside the Executive branch, but, of course the head of the Executive Branch can and should direct the heads of the various departments in that branch. They are not independent agents.
It's one thing for a judge to tell the Governor that he doesn't have the right to make special requests of judges - that's a different branch of state government and we've all seen how fussy those judges about any criticism.
However, to expect the Governor to just sit by and let the agency bureaucrats run the bureaucracy without any direction is pure madness. Just come up to Austin when any of the abortion/gay/transgendered issue bills are heard (or watch them on the computer) to see who would be deciding all of these matters if the elected head of the Executive Branch weren't strong enough.
(I'll holler at y'all when HB 300 gets to Committee. The last time this came up in 2005, lots of people signed in against the bill but not testifying, but only a couple of us actually gave testimony against it. )
And then there's the lawsuit that was filed Friday that will put us in bad with Medicaid and all those regs on the Vaccines for Children entitlements -- here come the fines and censures from the Feds.
Thank God we've got General Abbott to answer all the questions.
Pure coincidence of course. A good conservative like Perry could never be corrupt.
Should have voted for Kinky, it couldn't have been any worse.
Chris Bell basically told Democrats to support Perry on this, nuff said.
Perry is further proof that "Once a Democrat, Always a Democrat."
(And before any one points out Ronald Reagan, the Democratic Party back then was much different than the one in place since the late 60s)
Enforcing the bribery laws is all the campaign finance reform we will ever need.
Perry is going to get is ass handed to him. And rightly so because he is grabbing power. Rick Perry cannot expand the power of the Texas govenors office by a stroke of the pen.
Read Perry's past EO's, read the Texas Constitution. Perry can no more say with an EO that the state will spend $35 million dollars vaccinating young women as he could mandating we shoot a rocket in to space.
Besides Perry's abuse of power I'm confounded when I see so-called conservatives agree that it's A-OK for Perry to steal the rights of Texas parents and Texas children.
I saw an interview of Perry this weekend and he was asked if the legislature reversed his EO would he veto it. He said that if it came across his desk he would have to wait and look at it. I think he would (veto it).
The germ theory - and particularly the incidence and damage by this virus - is neither Democrat nor Republican.
Actual mode of transmission is not as pertinent as the risk - note that Texas mandates the 3 shots for tetanus, which is not spread by casual contact with classmates. Besides, Clostridium tetani can be treated with antibiotics.
I object to vaccine mandates and wonder why none of the legislators who are introducing bills or the group that has filed the lawsuit to block this mandate are focusing *on* this EO, rather than trying to change the Statutes that make it so hard for parents to opt out of any of the mandated vaccines.
I've made myself less popular at Texas Medical Association meetings when I stood to argue against tightening the mandates or making it even harder to opt out.
However, with the system the way it is, I just don't see the head of the Executive Branch as overstepping his bounds to give directives to one of the departments in that branch. The Department could have unilaterally added Gardasil to the mandated list, just as they did the Hep B and Varicella vaccines. The opt out was mentioned in the EO, which the Governor didn't have to do. If mandated, the private insurance companies will be more likely to cover it. And if Farrar and Van de Putte's bills pass in the legislature, our girls will have more "comprehensive sex ed" in order to "inform" them about the virus, the vaccine and sexual activity than under the Governor's EO and current DSHS practices.
It's not going to make much of a financial change to the State budget. The feds have already made sure that Texas will pay for most of the doses of vaccines that we would pay for under a mandate.
These viruses are so prevalent that I appreciate the tool to use against them. The cancer is more and more rare - but too many teen girls and young women find themselves facing years of repeat paps, biopsies and lasers, freezing, and burning, while (thankfully) never becoming diagnosed with actual cancer.
If we learned anything from the HIV debacle, it should be that the virus is a matter for medical concern, and the focus on the social aspects as to how the virus is spread, while vital to public health policy, can distract from control. Both the social aspect and the viral infection must be addressed.
Sometimes there is no use in attempting to discuss a particular topic with some people here. While all the the items you note may be interesting they don't change the fact that Perry simply did not have the authority to do what he did.
I appreciate that you are a physician. I'd prefer you remain one and keep away from any political power. I find your way of thinking scary. What's next? Would you require that nobody have unprotected sex without the permission of the government? Because unprotected sex can result in all sorts of nasty things?
Texas has a process where we elect people who then work together to formulate and pass laws. This process is designed to allow the public to have a say-so in what laws are passed or not passed. The Texas legislature makes the law and allocates taxpayer money to implement the law. The governor can then either sign the law or not. It never has been and it should never be that the governor is able to legislate. It's not his job and there is a reason for that as we can now see from Perry's attempted grab for power. He is an elected offical with a temporary job who is accountable to others under our system. He cannot do any damn thing he pleases via executive orders.
As I have said before, Perry will rescind this EO because he has to. If he does not have the sense to do so the courts or the legislature will do that for him. At the end of the day that's what will happen. You can chit chat about all the medical issues you are focused on all you wish but they are not going to change what will happen.
He needs to be recalled, but then we would just have another lying P.O.S. to contend with.
It's a viscous cycle.
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