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US generals ‘will quit’ if Bush orders Iran attack
The Sunday Times (U.K.) ^ | 02/25/07 | Michael Smith and Sarah Baxter

Posted on 02/24/2007 4:37:37 PM PST by Pokey78

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To: Pokey78

I would bet the farm that all of this tripe is brought to you by: the Democrat party of the USA.


141 posted on 02/24/2007 6:51:03 PM PST by Gator113
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To: editor-surveyor
Bush should hold a meeting himself and order all the Generals into the same room, whether they support standing up to Iran or not. He should then ask them to individually raise their hand if they would be willing to Iran to posess Nuclear Bombs and not take military action.

Be sure to lay to rest the question of we prefer diplomatic dialogue and state that the question is in the context of Failed talks that were managed by Kerry, Kennedy and Hillary.

142 posted on 02/24/2007 6:52:33 PM PST by scannell
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To: xzins
They can get us started, but once in the field, the security of the US is in the hands of the Cdr in Chief.

Not true. The Army and Navy (and Air Force) exist only with the consent of Congress. If Congress saw fit, all could cease to exist tomorrow.

143 posted on 02/24/2007 6:52:46 PM PST by jude24
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To: balch3

I wonder what they will be writing if Iran is able to transport a small nuke to one of our cities and murder hundreds of thousands of people?


144 posted on 02/24/2007 6:55:22 PM PST by fabian
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To: Miss Marple
Clintonistas in the government cannot, by LAW, be fired

Well, I can dream, can't I ?

145 posted on 02/24/2007 6:58:09 PM PST by llevrok ("“Moderation is a fatal thing. Nothing succeeds like excess.” - Oscar Wilde)
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To: gondramB

"Does anybody know how formally declared wars have been ended in the past?"

America's formally declared wars have ended upon the unconditional surrender of the other side.

The GWOT, and OIF are not congressionally declared wars, as I understand the term.


146 posted on 02/24/2007 6:59:56 PM PST by SaxxonWoods (Boycott all Leftist Media, ignore them and they will go away...)
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To: Miss Marple
Clintonistas in the government cannot, by LAW

But you can relieve them of their command in put them in charge of the Honor Guard in Alaska.

147 posted on 02/24/2007 7:00:13 PM PST by scannell
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To: jude24; P-Marlowe

It is true. Commander in Chief means exactly that once in the field, the CinC gets to decide how to utilize them.

And we both know that the Congress is not going to cause the Army and Navy to cease to exist.

It would be terrible dereliction that would drive any supporting such stupidity from office.

And, of course, there's the fact that such a thing would have to survive the entire legislative process, to include a presidential veto. It would never be over-ridden. Ever.


148 posted on 02/24/2007 7:00:27 PM PST by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Those who support the troops will pray for them to WIN!)
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To: Pokey78
Interesting. No names are quoted--so the LameStream Media can make up all the stories they desire, and make the lie as big and outrageous as needed.

Why name names, when one can just cite "a source".

149 posted on 02/24/2007 7:05:26 PM PST by Recovering_Democrat (I am SO glad to no longer be associated with the party of Dependence on Government!)
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To: Candor7
...as nervous as a burqua clad Islamic virgin on her family arranged wedding night! She knows there's incoming but not where its gonna hit! The front door or the back?

Barbarism taints everything about such a nation, its actions and motives. I say stomp it out because if it gets nuclear weapons, it WILL use them barbarically. It's not like this is anything new -- Western civilization became what it is by centuries of stomping into submission such backward societies. You gotta be ruthless sometimes to maintain freedom. And freedom, it appears, needs constant maintenance.

150 posted on 02/24/2007 7:06:46 PM PST by Finny (God continue to Bless President G.W. Bush with wisdom, popularity, safety and success.)
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To: jude24

"...neo-conservative delusions of American hegemony."

he·gem·o·ny

1. leadership or predominant influence exercised by one nation over others, as in a confederation.

2. leadership; predominance.

3. (esp. among smaller nations) aggression or expansionism by large nations in an effort to achieve world domination.

Would you do me the favor of telling me which of the above definitions you were referring to in your post #72?

Thanks in advance.


151 posted on 02/24/2007 7:10:23 PM PST by SaxxonWoods (Boycott all Leftist Media, ignore them and they will go away...)
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To: billbears
There will be a diplomatic solution to this.

Yeah. Right.

152 posted on 02/24/2007 7:11:22 PM PST by Finny (God continue to Bless President G.W. Bush with wisdom, popularity, safety and success.)
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To: muawiyah

Actually, there are around 450 Flag-rank officers spread across all services. Forty two are 4-star.


153 posted on 02/24/2007 7:12:37 PM PST by Don Carlos (Posting tasteless comments since 02/03/2002)
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To: Pokey78
But army chiefs fear an attack on Iran would backfire on American troops in Iraq and lead to more terrorist attacks, a rise in oil prices and the threat of a regional war.

Army chiefs are worried about a possible rise in oil prices? This is the lamest story I've read in a while.

154 posted on 02/24/2007 7:16:49 PM PST by oldbrowser (First, Do No Harm.)
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To: Pokey78

Do the Generals have the courage to put their names on the same page saying they will quit and present their intentions now.

That way they could quit now and save us paying their Pensions.

Seems I remember McArthur told President Truman, how the war should go, and Truman fired him.


155 posted on 02/24/2007 7:18:22 PM PST by chatham
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To: jude24

Iran already is a failed middle eastern state. Iran in fact is the poster child for what failed states become: a "terrorist aircraft carrier."


156 posted on 02/24/2007 7:18:29 PM PST by piasa (Attitude Adjustments Offered Here Free of Charge)
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To: Pokey78

GOOD!! WE NEED TO GET RID OF THE REST OF THE DEAD WOOD AT THE PENTAGON!!

Let the whining babies quit!!


157 posted on 02/24/2007 7:20:41 PM PST by CyberAnt (Drive-By Media: Fake news, fake documents, fake polls)
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Throwing out the 'dead wood' once in a while is a good thing.....


158 posted on 02/24/2007 7:22:01 PM PST by wodinoneeye
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To: pitinkie
Its the Press that wants an attack on Iran..they keep talking about it!

Indeed. And it seems especially rampant in Great Britain. I'm mystified. It's almost like they think if they keep saying it, it will happen. The fourth estate is projecting it's own voyeuristic arrogance lately.
159 posted on 02/24/2007 7:23:29 PM PST by Liberty Valance (Keep a simple manner for a happy life ;o)
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To: jude24; xzins
"Not true. The Army and Navy (and Air Force) exist only with the consent of Congress. If Congress saw fit, all could cease to exist tomorrow."

What are you smoking? - The President has the executive power, and the congress cannot remove it. They can attempt to defund it, but that also requires the President's signature. The Constitution state that the congress has the power to raise up armies, but strangely does not discuss any power to eliminate them. The armies exist to carry out the CINC's orders, until he requests that the congress disband them. BTW, FDR's executive order of martial readyness is still in force, and the President can use it at his pleasure.

160 posted on 02/24/2007 7:30:45 PM PST by editor-surveyor
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