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China: High-tech Destroyers in Formation (New Year celebration?)
Shipborne Weapons ^ | March 2007 (issue date)

Posted on 02/24/2007 1:19:08 AM PST by TigerLikesRooster

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To: TigerLikesRooster

Just wondering if the Chi-Coms named one of their tin cans after President Bill Clinton. It certainly would be fitting since he was responsible for them obtaining missile technology in return for cash to his coffers.








21 posted on 02/24/2007 6:55:53 AM PST by KenmcG414
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To: Gorzaloon

I meant that honestly .. so if you're making fun of me .. I don't appreciate it.

I'm a military buff .. meaning I collect pictures of different aircraft and ships, and these pictures look like pictures painted of what the ships should look like, and not the actual ships themselves. Sometimes the artist's drawings of aircraft and ships is different than reality.


22 posted on 02/24/2007 8:46:36 AM PST by CyberAnt (Drive-By Media: Fake news, fake documents, fake polls)
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To: CyberAnt
I meant that honestly .. so if you're making fun of me .. I don't appreciate it.

Nope..I Never do that, ever.

I was referring to some of the wierd colors and finishes China seems to like to use on their bottom-line tool exports. I have never seen a pink lathe, yet, but it would not surprise me.

I think a glaring white for a warship is a little strange..Like a pink lathe.

23 posted on 02/24/2007 8:53:51 AM PST by Gorzaloon (Global Warming: A New Kind Of Scientology for the Rest Of Us.)
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To: Gorzaloon
I think a glaring white for a warship is a little strange

Well you started it

24 posted on 02/24/2007 10:02:10 AM PST by Oztrich Boy ( for those in Rio Linda, there's conservapedia)
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To: Oztrich Boy

Remember "Dazzle Camoflage", to fool optical rangefinders?


25 posted on 02/24/2007 11:59:18 AM PST by Gorzaloon (Global Warming: A New Kind Of Scientology for the Rest Of Us.)
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To: Strategerist

Yes, they may be small potatoes now but one doesn't ignore a people with 4-5 times your population and pipe dreams of taking over the world this century. 200 million chinese invading israel sounds crazy, yes? It's been right there in the book of revelation for 2000 years.


26 posted on 02/24/2007 12:31:24 PM PST by timer (n/0=n=nx0)
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To: timer; Strategerist
Yes, they may be small potatoes now

Not so small. Right now it would be hard to pick who had in actuality the second most powerful navy in the world - between China, Japan, Russia, or the UK

27 posted on 02/24/2007 7:47:43 PM PST by Oztrich Boy ( for those in Rio Linda, there's conservapedia)
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To: Oztrich Boy

The UK navy. It was in the battle of the Spanish Armada of 1588(400 years ago)that England wrested control of the seas from spain. Although the naval competition went on for long after that, that was the tipping point. Thus SA is spanish speaking but ENGLISH is the world language because the ENGLISH NAVY dominated all the seaports of the world. The ENGLISH NAVAL EMPIRE(commonwealth)lasted for approx 300 years.

Our own country was founded by primarily englishmen/UK people. Language, customs, religion. But it naturally divided into the 2 basic english "inventions" : the industrial system of the north and the plantation system of the south. Thus the basis for the American Civil War.

So now we have the chinese whacking satellites as a STAR WARS demo. We were doing that 20 years ago(SDI). But beware, they have 3-4 times our manpower and make no bones about their wanting to control the whole world. Just suppose that THEY stumbled onto a technology that wiped out our entire navy in one hour. I know what it is....


28 posted on 02/24/2007 10:27:44 PM PST by timer (n/0=n=nx0)
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To: sit-rep

The USSR introduced gas turbines on their warships much before the West did so-Those Chinese turbines are probably Ukranian.


29 posted on 02/25/2007 6:35:15 AM PST by sukhoi-30mki
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To: CyberAnt

Aren't most new warships increasingly streamlined???


30 posted on 02/25/2007 6:36:34 AM PST by sukhoi-30mki
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To: sukhoi-30mki

Ah! I did not know this! Thanks for the education.


31 posted on 02/25/2007 6:37:28 AM PST by sit-rep ( http://trulineint.com/latestposts.asp)
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To: Oztrich Boy

China would probably take that spot once the EU (re)starts supplying weaponry to them.But the problem for the PLAN is that they are surrounded by rather formidable navies like Japan,South Korea & the USN.


32 posted on 02/25/2007 6:38:29 AM PST by sukhoi-30mki
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To: DH
Notice in the first picture, the shadow on the building (upper left of picture) and no shadow of the ship's outline on the building behind it.

Yea there is. Look behind the second stack and you will see it. The sun was probably somewhere around the ship's 11 o'clock.

33 posted on 02/25/2007 6:42:30 AM PST by killjoy (Life sucks, wear a helmet.)
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To: sit-rep
Wonder where they got the Gas Turbine technology?

Gas turbine-powered warships have been around for almost 40 years. It's not exactly secret.

34 posted on 02/25/2007 6:46:04 AM PST by Non-Sequitur (Proud owner, 10,000th post on the 'Anna Nicole Smith Has Died' thread.)
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To: KenmcG414
Just wondering if the Chi-Coms named one of their tin cans after President Bill Clinton. It certainly would be fitting since he was responsible for them obtaining missile technology in return for cash to his coffers.

Complete BS. China gets most of its military technology from Russia and France simply by whipping out its wallet and buying it.

35 posted on 02/25/2007 6:47:59 AM PST by Non-Sequitur (Proud owner, 10,000th post on the 'Anna Nicole Smith Has Died' thread.)
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To: Leisler

"Way back ships, the hull number are almost in the water."

If you look closely there seems to be some differences in equipment on deck too. It's been photoshopped.


36 posted on 02/25/2007 7:02:28 AM PST by dljordan
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If you look closely there seems to be some differences in equipment on deck too. It's been photoshopped.

Or amazingly it's a different class

The first two ships are the 168 Guangzhou and the 169 Wuhan of the Type 052B Guangzhou class (NATO code name Luyang I)

The third ship is the 171 Haikou of the later Type 052C Lanzhou class (NATO code name Luyang II) with Vertical launch missiles and phased array radar

37 posted on 02/25/2007 7:41:04 AM PST by Oztrich Boy ( for those in Rio Linda, there's conservapedia)
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To: sukhoi-30mki
Right. Soviet Kashins and Mod Kashins had gas turbines going way back before our Spruance DD's.
38 posted on 02/25/2007 7:50:57 AM PST by ryan71 (You can hear it on the coconut telegraph...)
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To: sukhoi-30mki

"Aren't most new warships increasingly streamlined???"


I would imagine so .. but I guess what bothered me was the ships just didn't look real .. more like an artist's rendering. Maybe it's just me.

I'm not saying they couldn't have those ships .. but they may not have been built yet .. and what we were seeing were only pictures of what they are PLANNING TO BUILD.


39 posted on 02/25/2007 12:02:12 PM PST by CyberAnt (Drive-By Media: Fake news, fake documents, fake polls)
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To: CyberAnt

Those group images might have been photoshopped,but these ships do exist.Just google up Type-051C,052B,05C etc-atleast one of each for almost 2 years.


40 posted on 02/25/2007 8:15:47 PM PST by sukhoi-30mki
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