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U.S. Episcopal Church Faces Ultimatum
NEWSMAX ^ | 02/23/2007

Posted on 02/23/2007 3:19:42 PM PST by SirLinksalot

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1 posted on 02/23/2007 3:19:45 PM PST by SirLinksalot
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To: SirLinksalot

"We made our 'yes' to gays and lesbians," wrote the Rev. Ann Fontaine of the Diocese of Wyoming, in an examination of the Anglican demands. "Let it stand."




Ya dont think maybe the Rev Ann Fontaine is gay do you/?


2 posted on 02/23/2007 3:22:29 PM PST by sgtbono2002 (I will forgive Jane Fonda, when the Jews forgive Hitler.)
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Ya dont think maybe the Rev Ann Fontaine is gay do you/?

I wouldn't bet money on her not being gay.

3 posted on 02/23/2007 3:25:01 PM PST by bcsco
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Many Episcopalians say they're being asked to give up what they cherish most about their denomination: its emphasis on social justice in Scripture

I'm thinking that this might be the problem, right here . . .
4 posted on 02/23/2007 3:26:22 PM PST by horse_doc
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To: SirLinksalot

My guess: if the Anglicans split from North American Episcopalians: God will prosper them for 1) being faithful, 2) having faith in Him rather than earthly things (supposed US wealth), and 3) for His glory and their continued real Christian wittness to the world!


5 posted on 02/23/2007 3:29:12 PM PST by JSDude1 (www.pence08.com.)
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To: SirLinksalot
Jefferts Schori is about to learn that the "everything's relative" education she got at Stanford (about the same time I was there) doesn't work in the real world. She's an Easter Bunny in a Coyote world.
6 posted on 02/23/2007 3:30:02 PM PST by Ironclad (O Tempora! O Mores!)
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In fact, the Anglican Communion itself may suffer more from any broken ties.

A significant chunk of its budget comes from the U.S. church.

A significant chunk of money came from Jimmy Swaggart, but the A/G cut off his credentials after his refusal to go through the rehabilitation process set down in policy. It hasn't hurt the A/G to be without Swaggart or his money.

The world wide Anglican Church will not be hurt by cutting off the U.S. branch and it's money either.

7 posted on 02/23/2007 3:30:20 PM PST by Anitius Severinus Boethius
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I realized, at some point before my first communion in the late 60's, that American Episcopalians are just plain wierd.

I'll present myself as exhibit A...

It didn't start with gay bishops.

It didn't start with ordaining women decades ago.

It probably didn't start with the revision of the Book of Common Prayer in the mid 60's, but that's when it came to my awareness.

People say Mormons, Christian Scientists, etc. are wierd.

Just wait until some of us unhinged Epicopalians come knocking at your door.

8 posted on 02/23/2007 3:32:54 PM PST by billorites (freepo ergo sum)
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I think they will leap off the heresy cliff. They can't get much smaller anyway. I have no horse in the race but it seems like the American church (Anglican) has become pretty insignificant while others are booming. Do you think they will compromise to keep their buildings or even if they split do they keep the physical assets?


9 posted on 02/23/2007 3:34:31 PM PST by Goreknowshowtocheat
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To: SirLinksalot
Unfortunately this story does not cover all that is going on. My Episcopal church here in Albuquerque split sometime ago from the American Episcopal church and became an Anglican Church over this issue. Recently the largest Episcopal church in the country, which is located in Virgina, split from the American Episcopal church and also became an Anglican church. This is happening all across the country.
10 posted on 02/23/2007 3:37:25 PM PST by Rogle
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The quote that conservative Espiscopalians are a minority is truly laughable. The conservatives, which were in a majority once, have left the Espiscopal Church and many joined orthodox or Anglican denominations.


11 posted on 02/23/2007 3:38:25 PM PST by Melchior
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Gene Robinson

"..He moved to New Hampshire in 1975 and became Canon to the Ordinary in 1988. While attending the Seminary, he sought counseling to rid himself of homosexual thoughts. The counseling did not change his sexual orientation, and in 1972 he married despite these feelings about his sexuality, of which he had informed his fiancée. After having two daughters (Jamee and Ella), Robinson publicly acknowledged his homosexuality. He and his wife divorced in 1986, but remain friends. Around 1989, Robinson met his current partner, Mark Andrews, who currently works in the New Hampshire state government. Robinson has one granddaughter, Morgan Isabella. [2].."

The Episcopal Church in the United States set itself on course to die out to serve the needs of degenerates and their apologists.

12 posted on 02/23/2007 3:38:41 PM PST by Anti-Bubba182
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"Many Episcopalians say they're being asked to give up what they cherish most about their denomination: its emphasis on social justice in Scripture, which led them to accept gay relationships, and its democratic policy making that gives lay people and clergy a vote in major decisions."

Note, no mention of God, or His Son, our Lord. Actually, there is little emphasis on "social justice" in scripture, but rather doing God's will, not your own.

We left the ECUSA, now TEC, decades ago and have found a home with the APA, where like the REC, the is little resistance to the concept that the Bible contains the Word of God. Join us at http://www.anglicanprovince.org/


13 posted on 02/23/2007 3:45:49 PM PST by Rodentking (There is no God but Yahweh and Moses is his prophet - http://www.airpower.blogspot.com/)
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To: SirLinksalot

They should be cut off and not even given a chance to "repent".

Their repentance (if there is one) the sole purpose of which will be an attempt to deceiving the AC until they are in a position to strike again.

Throw them out (at least the leadership) like the rotting garbage they are.


14 posted on 02/23/2007 3:47:57 PM PST by PetroniusMaximus
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To: Huber

*ping*


15 posted on 02/23/2007 3:51:47 PM PST by Condor 63
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To: SirLinksalot

Considering recent events, One presumes sodomy within the clergy would be discourage not encouraged.

Talk about cartersian logic. While I am sure openly accepted homosexuality within the Church would work in practice, I'm not so sure it would work in theory. :)


16 posted on 02/23/2007 3:55:41 PM PST by kinghorse (calls them like I sees them)
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cartesian, damn blew the punchline!


17 posted on 02/23/2007 3:56:39 PM PST by kinghorse (calls them like I sees them)
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To: SirLinksalot
In fact, the Anglican Communion itself may suffer more from any broken ties. A significant chunk of its budget comes from the U.S. church.

Is worldly financial loss REALLY the best measure of Christian suffering?

They thought Christians would be cowed into tolerating blasphemy by waving a few dollars in their face.

I would be happy to lose lots of money, to distance myself from churches that have turned themselves into gay sex clubs...to stand more closely with churches with Orthodox beliefs.
18 posted on 02/23/2007 4:01:03 PM PST by Mount Athos
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To: billorites

I recall an interview with the Sr priest of a large Episcopal church in Baltimore in the late 60's. He was proud to inform me that he did not consider himself a Christian. "Buddhism is closer to my spiritual beliefs," he said.


19 posted on 02/23/2007 4:04:21 PM PST by Louis Foxwell (here come I, gravitas in tow.)
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"Anglican leaders this week gave the U.S. Episcopal Church an ultimatum"

Sadly I read this as "please comply with the Winsor report and we really, really, really mean it this time, if you don't we're going to send you a letter with all sorts of bad grammar."

My guess is that the deadline will come and go with all sorts of meaningless shuffling of feet.

20 posted on 02/23/2007 4:08:03 PM PST by Proud_texan (Just my opinion, no relationship to reality is expressed or implied.)
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