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Rise of the candidate defined by September 11
The Daily Telegraph ^ | February 23, 2007 | Toby Harnden

Posted on 02/23/2007 1:43:05 AM PST by MadIvan

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To: Jim Robinson

A "seasoned" mayor of a municipal will be highly likely to concentrate on fixing social "problems," as he would see them, by way of more social programs, a bigger, stronger judicial with fewer constitutional restrictions, and fancier video productions (to cram the programs into policy/law). Do you remember Clinton's "100,000 new police on the street" program? Municipal experience provides a background that would work very much against military defense, IMO. I've worked and taken oaths for both before.


21 posted on 02/23/2007 4:07:02 AM PST by familyop
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To: MadIvan

Looking at the "keywords", I'd say that the spammers have already hit this thread. Rudy has his faults, and don't we all? I'd have to say, when it comes to asskicking and name taking, Rudy is up to the task.


22 posted on 02/23/2007 4:09:57 AM PST by TheSpottedOwl (Are those coyotes I hear, or is Hillary singing again?)
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To: familyop
Yup, that's exactly what I'm afraid of. Big government solutions for "big" social problems. The Mayor's gonna fix America's problems but good.
23 posted on 02/23/2007 4:11:34 AM PST by Jim Robinson (It's "originalists" not "constructionists.")
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To: familyop
Municipal experience provides a background that would work very much against military defense, IMO.

Uh, yeah, sure.

24 posted on 02/23/2007 4:12:12 AM PST by dirtboy (Duncan Hunter 08)
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To: TheSpottedOwl

Question is, who's ass is he going to kick?


25 posted on 02/23/2007 4:12:24 AM PST by Jim Robinson (It's "originalists" not "constructionists.")
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To: Jim Robinson

You're very welcome for the info. The question made me curious. All-in-all, it looks like a campaign for lawyers, municipal administrators and bureaucrats. ...more power for the fed and cities. There are various leagues/organizations for municipal government interests. I wouldn't be surprised, if those turn out to be one of the sources of support.


26 posted on 02/23/2007 4:12:40 AM PST by familyop
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To: familyop
Speaking of lawyers and cities, wonder where he stands on eminent domain? Does he have a position on Kelo?
27 posted on 02/23/2007 4:14:43 AM PST by Jim Robinson (It's "originalists" not "constructionists.")
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To: MadIvan
"The voice of realism"

The voice of a man with no convictions worth fighting for.

28 posted on 02/23/2007 4:16:15 AM PST by Afronaut (Supporting Republican Liberals is the Undeniable End to Freedom)
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To: TheSpottedOwl
"Looking at the 'keywords', I'd say that the spammers have already hit this thread."

Thanks for bringing our attention to that. Different readers do need different keywords to find a piece on that topic. ;)
29 posted on 02/23/2007 4:16:23 AM PST by familyop
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To: Jim Robinson

Jeez, don't you read the content of this site? Islamic extremists! You know he will, too. How about a Guliani/Hunter ticket?


30 posted on 02/23/2007 4:29:36 AM PST by TheSpottedOwl (Are those coyotes I hear, or is Hillary singing again?)
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To: MadIvan

Rudy will be strongly challenged by a conservative. Of that there is no doubt. And this notion that only he can beat Hillary is preposterous.


31 posted on 02/23/2007 4:32:31 AM PST by pissant
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I'm really curious how so many "conservative" Republicans can jump on this man's bandwagon when they know absolutely nothing about him other than he's an admitted gay supporting, gun grabbing abortionist who happens to believe global warming is a big "fixable" problem and he likes illegal aliens coming to work. Where's his position statements on anything of importance?
32 posted on 02/23/2007 4:32:32 AM PST by Jim Robinson (It's "originalists" not "constructionists.")
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"Speaking of lawyers and cities, wonder where he stands on eminent domain? Does he have a position on Kelo?"

I don't know of any statement about that on his part. Mayors would be biased toward eminent domain in most cases (big business revenues for cities). Such "public purpose" might even be carried out while a mayor isn't available.

A Downtown Flagship Strikes Its Colors (New Yuk Times)

...will look into it.
33 posted on 02/23/2007 4:35:04 AM PST by familyop
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To: pissant
Rudy will be strongly challenged by a conservative. Of that there is no doubt. And this notion that only he can beat Hillary is preposterous.

We're about to find out. I'm less concerned if there is a challenge in the primaries - that's what they're there for - what I am worried about is the following scenario: if Rudy wins the nomination, that people get their priorities correct, namely, keeping out the Democrats.

Regards, Ivan

34 posted on 02/23/2007 4:35:06 AM PST by MadIvan (I aim to misbehave.)
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To: Afronaut
The voice of a man with no convictions worth fighting for.

There are a variety of methods by which one can fight for convictions. Some of us regard sinking them into a hopeless third party candidacy as being a particularly ineffective way.

Ivan

35 posted on 02/23/2007 4:36:06 AM PST by MadIvan (I aim to misbehave.)
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Speaking of lawyers and cities, wonder where he stands on eminent domain? Does he have a position on Kelo?

Why don't we ask him? President Bush didn't have a whole lot to say about this debacle, because it was up to the Supremes. You think Rudy, or anyone else can usurp the Courts decisions?

36 posted on 02/23/2007 4:36:08 AM PST by TheSpottedOwl (Are those coyotes I hear, or is Hillary singing again?)
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To: TheSpottedOwl

I read a piece today where he says he likes McCain-Feingold... only it has some loopholes that need fixin, ie, he wants to curtail our free speech rights even more. Now, that's kicking some butt!


37 posted on 02/23/2007 4:36:39 AM PST by Jim Robinson (It's "originalists" not "constructionists.")
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To: familyop

LOL! They're everywhere ;)


38 posted on 02/23/2007 4:37:12 AM PST by TheSpottedOwl (Are those coyotes I hear, or is Hillary singing again?)
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To: TheSpottedOwl

I think they a president can fight the supremes when they err, you betcha.


39 posted on 02/23/2007 4:37:52 AM PST by Jim Robinson (It's "originalists" not "constructionists.")
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To: TheSpottedOwl
I'd have to say, when it comes to asskicking and name taking, Rudy is up to the task.

Have you got any evidence of that?

40 posted on 02/23/2007 4:38:59 AM PST by wagglebee ("We are ready for the greatest achievements in the history of freedom." -- President Bush, 1/20/05)
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