Mainstream Media: Pre-term Baby’s Survival Will Have Big Impact on Abortion Debate

LifeSiteNews ^ | 2/22/07 | Gudrun Schultz

[Jorge]

I offered to you a reasoned debate but you see the implications of addressing self defense as the rationale for pregnancy termination so you avoid the truth at every turn. Nice try, again. Your ilk are always transparent defenders of the rites of killing alive unborn children when addressed directly.

What a self-righteous idiot. You have not clue as to what this debate is really about.

All we can expect from you is to bloviate about how evil abortion is while offering no answers as to handling the issue in real life.

Guess you would propose locking women in the pen for 8 months to ensure they can't terminate their pregnancies.

Yeah, we need more people like you in charge.

[justche]

Your obtuseness is fascinating to watch.

[Jorge]

Your obtuseness is fascinating to watch.

Obtuse this!

[Scotswife]

"However, this is merely the culture of death's smokescreen, they BELIEVE in killing anyone at anytime that a marginally passable reason can be put forward."

Yes..the real reason is inconvenience, regret, self-centeredness.
The viability issue is a smokescreen.

[Jorge]

Bwahaha, you're a liar, that's all.

I challenge you to show me one thing I've lied about.

You can't.

You are so desperate to refute the facts I posted all you can do is call people names.

I'm more honest than you can EVER hope to be.

You can't handle the truth.

[MHGinTN]

Haha, you're a gem! To discuss the issue of self-defense didn't suit the death cultist, so he decides we aren't acknowledging him. What an evening!

[Jorge]

twisting, dissembling, lying, and mischaracterizing when cornered.

I've cornered your sorry butt on this more than once and all you can do is resort to personal insults and wild accusations.

I'm more honest than you will ever live to be.

[Jorge]

To discuss the issue of self-defense didn't suit the death cultist, so he decides we aren't acknowledging him.

What a cowardly response.

You think we can't read or challenge you on this?

[Mr. Silverback]

Not many of them, but they're here.

[Mr. Silverback]

Are you a man or a woman?

There is not a thing in his or her post that is untrue, so it matters not if this Freeper is a man. woman, hermaphrodite or wolfman from Vega Six.

Seems to me you're deploying the emo card because there are no fact cards available to your side. This is especially true when we are discussing a child who will go a total of 19 weeks outside the womb during which she would be a medical waste bag candidate according to the rules your side has imposed on us.

[Mr. Silverback]

Why, for instance, did I just see a Freeper mock the Silent No More women (the ones with the "I regret my abortion" signs) just today? I can't think of anything more pro-abortion than mocking the idea that someone might regret it.

As for the difference between pro-abortion and pro-choice, it is tiny if it exists at all. Imagine the guy who says, "I'm not personally in favor of drunk driving, but I won't vote for anybody who would ban it." What would you call him?

[Mr. Silverback]

Get a book by Peter Bowerman called "The Well-Fed Self-Publisher." Bowerman's awesome.

[MHGinTN]

Will do so tomorrow from the bookstore here in E.TN. Evil Interrupted time has come for publishing.

[Mr. Silverback]

See my post 71. Let's see him say that the guy in my example is not pro-drunk driving.

[Mr. Silverback]

The Bible says God opposed divorce but because of the hardness of people's hearts, through Moses, allowed it. According to your superior morality God is pro-divorce because He allowed it. Even though He disapproved of it. Who do you think you are? Better than God?

You say he didn't hit a nerve...then you flail about like a wildebeest who has a lion chomping on its flank.

[Mr. Silverback]

For example, I don't think it's plausible to force a rape victim to carry her rapist's child to term simply because her life is not a risk. I agree it's not the baby's fault, the rape I mean,

What other classes of people should we allow to be killed just because we won't be able to stop all their deaths?

[Mr. Silverback]

You sound like the pro-gay "christians" asking where Jesus specifically condemned homosexuality. He didn't.

Actually, if you knew the Bible as well as you think you do, you'd know He did. When He condemned sexual immorality, he used the word "porneia." It means illicit sexual intercourse, and includes "adultery, fornication, homosexuality, lesbianism, intercourse with animals etc." according to Thayer and Smith's New Testament Greek Lexicon. Interestingly, in chapter 7 Mark notes that Jesus was declaring all the foods condemned in the Torah to be permissible, and then in the next breath Jesus roundly condemns the sex acts that were condemned in the Torah.

[justche]

You say she didn't hit a nerve...then you flail about like a wildebeest who has a lion chomping on its flank.

just thought I'd fix that one little thing :) Thanks for your response! I never want to heap guilt on someone who has had an abortion, or allowed for someone else to have one - with that said - I just don't think we can justify for the 'what about' scenarios that always get played over and over here....

[Mr. Silverback]

If you support a legal condition that enables 1.5 million murders a year, but you think you are pro-life, then I guess a guy who wants to leglaize arson is pro-fire safety.

[Mr. Silverback]

Yep, I feel sad for women who choose abortion, but virtually none of them have any problems that a child should die to "solve."