Abortion Contortions - Why McCain & Giuliani can't close the deal

The American Spectator ^ | February 22, 2007 | W. James Antle III

[Kevmo]

Another example of how Youtube is shaping the debate in this cycle.

[NeoCaveman]

And Romney's story about his conversion sounds pretty phony as well.

Hey, many Yankees were squishes when it came to slavery until it started expanding. It's not unconceivable, pardon the pun, to think that the same thinking could apply to the life issue. If one opposes human cloning then at some point they have to think the issue back a few steps to Roe.

[massadvj]

Giuliani will never be President.

Who then?

[Giant Conservative]

Someone who is pro-life and not pro-gay; someone who is pro-1stAmendment and not anti-2ndAmendment.

[massadvj]

Someone who is pro-life and not pro-gay; someone who is pro-1stAmendment and not anti-2ndAmendment.

Fine. Give me a name that can win a general election against Hitlery in Virginia, Ohio and Missouri.

Remember, Guiliani goes into the primaries with a lock on New York and the whole of the northeast (including my home state of Pennsylvania, where he has a 70 percent approval rating among Republicans), plus California, Oregon, Washington.

Unless the whole of the religious right caolesces behind one person, Rudy cannot be denied. So name the person.

[Giant Conservative]

You're setting up a false premise, namely that the nomination defaults to Giuliani if an ideal candidate hasn't declared yet, or if a declared candidate acceptable to social conservatives hasn't obtained a high enough profile yet.

That is a false premise on several levels, primarily because the nomination of Giuliani is a guaranteed general-election loser in any case, and would kill everything that matters within the GOP.

That said, I'd take Hunter, Brownback, or Huckabee over Giuliani, McCain, or Romney.

And Mike Pence over any of the above. And Thune should declare too.

[Giant Conservative]

Giuliani would not win Oregon, Washington, California, or New York in a general election, because he is pro-IraqWar. That position alone would guarantee him losing those states. His social liberalism and cross-dressing would lose him The South. He cannot win the Presidency.

[MHGinTN]

You offered, "Memo to the one-issue (ie. abortion, guns, immigration) factions of the Republican Party: Go ahead and stay home on Election Day ..." Divided rule is to be preferred over death cult rule. The specious 'stay at home or vote for Rudy' juvenile crap is getting moldy, dude. It is not to stay at home, merely go and vote the entire ticket except for the presidential spot if the nominee isn't suitable to your standards.

[massadvj]

I can accept any of your candidates and will suopport them if nominated. Good luck.