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What would Rudy Do? (First of a continuing series)
2/18/2009 | dirtboy

Posted on 02/18/2007 12:46:51 PM PST by dirtboy

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To: Sir Francis Dashwood
I have not made a decision yet. The candidates that I would consider or Rudy, Romney, Gilmore (if in the game) and Hunter.

Trying to make a logical decision based on my priorities.

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61 posted on 02/18/2007 2:41:41 PM PST by nctexan
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To: dirtboy
Time to face the facts. If you are upset about Rudy being a threat to gun ownership, just imagine life with Hillorat. That very well could be the choice and we all are going to make some adult decisions.
62 posted on 02/18/2007 2:45:55 PM PST by neverhillorat (IF THE RATS WIN, WE ALL LOSE)
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To: raybbr

ROFL!!!!


63 posted on 02/18/2007 2:46:06 PM PST by calcowgirl ("Liberalism is just Communism sold by the drink." P. J. O'Rourke)
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To: nctexan
Rudy, Romney, Gilmore (if in the game) and Hunter.

Gilmore is a cipher. It's on my to-do list to learn more about him.

64 posted on 02/18/2007 2:46:28 PM PST by dirtboy (Duncan Hunter 08)
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To: neverhillorat
If you are upset about Rudy being a threat to gun ownership, just imagine life with Hillorat.

I must have missed something. Did I miss where Rudy has already won the GOP nomination?

65 posted on 02/18/2007 2:47:31 PM PST by dirtboy (Duncan Hunter 08)
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To: wagglebee
I haven't noticed where the Rudyites seem to be hampered by anything as insignificant as FACTS.

To the contrary, they seem to be downright allergic to them, considering they avoid them like poison ivy.

66 posted on 02/18/2007 2:48:13 PM PST by dirtboy (Duncan Hunter 08)
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To: Eagles Talon IV
I notice you failed to answer the question. Got another "saw" in trial law to explain that?

All right. Here's a question for you: suppose it's a race between Rudy and Hillary. Which would be a better use of $1,000?

  1. Supporting Rudy Giuliani's campaign
  2. Buying another gun
The question isn't just one of whether conservatives will vote for Rudy, but also whether it will be worth their while to support his campaign. I think many conservatives will consider their time and money to be better invested elsewhere.
67 posted on 02/18/2007 2:48:22 PM PST by supercat (Sony delenda est.)
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To: Al Simmons

"Or would you prefer a pure Stalinist who WILL try to introduce gay marriage, who WILL try to ban all guns, who WILL try to ban homeschooling - not to mention appoint HUNDREDS of Federal Judges who will make sure to 'make it so.'"

If we have to choose between 2 liberals in the election, there will be no winners. I see little difference between these 2.


68 posted on 02/18/2007 2:49:34 PM PST by FreeInWV
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To: Al Simmons
Dude, Bush I lost because HE RAISED TAXES.

I suspect that AWB #1 probably didn't help matters either, though I wasn't following issues back then enough to know how much it hurt.

69 posted on 02/18/2007 2:50:01 PM PST by supercat (Sony delenda est.)
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To: supercat; Luis Gonzales
Supporting Rudy Giuliani's campaign
Buying another gun

I like your either/or better. Mine was voting for Rudy or joining the Hari Krishnas.

70 posted on 02/18/2007 2:50:35 PM PST by dirtboy (Duncan Hunter 08)
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To: neverhillorat
If you are upset about Rudy being a threat to gun ownership, just imagine life with Hillorat.

Nominate Rudy and you'll end up with Hillorat.

71 posted on 02/18/2007 2:50:50 PM PST by JCEccles
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To: dirtboy

I live in Virginia, I think Gilmore is wonderful and he is a staunch conservative in every way, but I do not see any possible way he can be elected president.


72 posted on 02/18/2007 2:53:40 PM PST by wagglebee ("We are ready for the greatest achievements in the history of freedom." -- President Bush, 1/20/05)
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To: supercat

Wow! Does this mean I get that Kimber?


73 posted on 02/18/2007 2:55:39 PM PST by FreeInWV
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To: FreeInWV; All
"If we have to choose between 2 liberals in the election, there will be no winners. I see little difference between these 2."

Hitlary will appoint Ruth Bader Ginsburg/John Paul Stevens types to the Federal Judiciary.

Rudy will appoint Antonin Scalia/John Roberts types to the Federal Judiciary.

The legacy of those appointments will be with us 20 years after their presidencies have ended.

One would think that thought alone would be enough for you to focus on Nov '08 and remember Ronald W. Reagan's "11th Commandment":

"Thou Shalt Speak No Ill of Another Republican".

Its funny how people like to throw the Gipper's name along with mud at some GOP candidates while conveniently forgetting that he himself never did that.

74 posted on 02/18/2007 2:58:18 PM PST by Al Simmons (People who are on bandwagons of unknown US House Reps are detached from reality)
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To: FreeInWV
Wow! Does this mean I get that Kimber?

It beats the heck out of sending money to a guy who wants to take your Kimber away from you if you get it. So the way I look at it, buy TWO of them. One because you want to. And the second because you didn't donate to a gun-grabber's campaign.

75 posted on 02/18/2007 2:58:29 PM PST by dirtboy (Duncan Hunter 08)
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To: Al Simmons
Rudy will appoint Antonin Scalia/John Roberts types to the Federal Judiciary.

Please show ANYTHING in Rudy's past to support that. Talk is always cheap for politicians.

76 posted on 02/18/2007 3:00:32 PM PST by dirtboy (Duncan Hunter 08)
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To: dirtboy
Rudy has a pretty good track record of being a man of his word. Now if he started 'doing a Romney' of these issues I'd be worried.

If I were in his shoes, I'd simply state the (legally) obvious that the 'abortion right' is nowhere in the Constitution, so the issue should be left to the individual states (as it was prior to 1973).

That's not only the legally Constitutional position, but a 'winning' one.

Pulling a 'Romney' - Opposed-In Favor-Opposed (again) is the mark of a professional politician who cannot be trusted.

Come to think of it, I think I just talked myself out of being for Mitt...

77 posted on 02/18/2007 3:05:21 PM PST by Al Simmons (People who are on bandwagons of unknown US House Reps are detached from reality)
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To: Al Simmons
>>>>Rudy will appoint Antonin Scalia/John Roberts types to the Federal Judiciary.

What evidence do you have to support that? His appointments while Mayor of NYCity show a strong tendency towards liberal Democrats. I'd say Rudy would appoint jurists in the mold of Lawrence Tribe, George Mitchell and even Alan Dershowitz. Not Thomas, Scalia and Rehnquist.

Btw, the 11th commandment was/is a fallacy.

78 posted on 02/18/2007 3:06:39 PM PST by Reagan Man (Conservatives don't support, promote or vote for liberals.)
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To: Mr. Mojo
It'll be real interesting to see if the NRA endorses Rudy if he happens to win the nomination.

If they haven't learned any lessons from 1996, they will either endorse him or give him a quasi-endorsement. Unfortunately, I don't think the NRA has yet acknowledged any connection between their quasi-endorsement of Bob Dole and the passage of the Lautenberg Abomination.

79 posted on 02/18/2007 3:08:12 PM PST by supercat (Sony delenda est.)
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To: Al Simmons
Rudy has a pretty good track record of being a man of his word.

Hardly. I made the case on this very thread that such is not the case. He said recently that gun laws are a state issue and wrapped himself in the cloak of federalism to deflect criticism of his gun-grabbing ways as Mayor of NYC. Ignoring for now the absurd notion that the 2nd Amendment does not apply equally to the states, I showed here how in 1997 he called for the fedgov to pass laws imposing stricter gun control laws on neighboring states.

His history belies his current statements on federalism, so why should I believe his palitudes on federalism's first cousin, strict constructionism?

80 posted on 02/18/2007 3:08:29 PM PST by dirtboy (Duncan Hunter 08)
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