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What would Rudy Do? (First of a continuing series)
2/18/2009 | dirtboy

Posted on 02/18/2007 12:46:51 PM PST by dirtboy

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To: Eagles Talon IV
I notice you failed to answer the question

Oh, defeating the Dems in 2008 is going to be very difficult for any GOP nominee.

However, I can tell you a strategy that history has shown cannot work.

Run so far left that a sizeable third-party movement forms. And give no reason for anyone to cross party lines for you.

Rudy will not be able to hold the party together. And he will give no reason for pro-life and pro-gun Dems to cross over. And he will have little luck attracting independents and Dems as a pro-war candidate, since the Iraq War is becoming more unpopular in that segment with each passing day.

I am not so arrogant as to know what can win. But it should be blindingly obvious that Rudy can't win.

21 posted on 02/18/2007 1:14:56 PM PST by dirtboy (Duncan Hunter 08)
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To: OMalley
"OMG I know this wasnt posted to me, but for cryin out loud its in HIS TAGLINE."

What tag line are you referring to? Perhaps the Gremlins have blocked it on my machine.

22 posted on 02/18/2007 1:18:48 PM PST by Eagles Talon IV
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To: dirtboy
"I am not so arrogant as to know what can win. But it should be blindingly obvious that Rudy can't win."

I recall similar rhetoric about the nomination of Bill Clinton by the left.

23 posted on 02/18/2007 1:21:10 PM PST by Eagles Talon IV
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To: Eagles Talon IV
I recall similar rhetoric about the nomination of Bill Clinton by the left.

He won because of Bush the elder's leftward drift split the party. THANK YOU for making my point for me! We cannot afford that again!

24 posted on 02/18/2007 1:21:56 PM PST by dirtboy (Duncan Hunter 08)
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To: dirtboy
Rudy wouldn't win anyway. He's a NYC liberal. The Conservatives would never support him. The rest is all liberal media hype.
25 posted on 02/18/2007 1:26:47 PM PST by concerned about politics ("Get thee behind me, Liberal")
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To: dirtboy
After ten years of lying about it, this is now confirmed to have been a terrorist attack! Killer's daughter admits it was political.
26 posted on 02/18/2007 1:27:28 PM PST by JohnBovenmyer
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To: FreeInWV

I don't even want to think about that possibility.


27 posted on 02/18/2007 1:28:39 PM PST by bobby.223
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To: Peach

Awesome list! Saved for re-posting on future 'bash Rudy' threads....


28 posted on 02/18/2007 1:28:42 PM PST by Al Simmons (Holocaust-deniers and other anti-semites are the lowest forms of humanity.)
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To: Eagles Talon IV

Sooo is Rudy now the "new clinton"? I thought ya'll were saying he was the "new reagan"?

I think clinton is closer even by Rudys own admission.


29 posted on 02/18/2007 1:28:48 PM PST by OMalley (HAPPY BIRTHDAY MOM!!!!! Just say NO to Rudy "Tootsie" Giuliani-GO Duncan Hunter 08:))
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To: Eagles Talon IV; dirtboy
"Got another "saw" in trial law to explain that?"

But I'll bet he can post another 'Oldie but Goody' picture of Rudy in a dress.

Or maybe their candidate comparison chart that depicts Hillary's position on the WOT as if she were Tommy Franks.

Would be interesting to hear thoughts on his candidate. Kinda sounding like Hillary might be their man.

30 posted on 02/18/2007 1:30:11 PM PST by nctexan
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To: concerned about politics
Rudy wouldn't win anyway. He's a NYC liberal. The Conservatives would never support him. The rest is all liberal media hype.

That's the entire problem - he is getting a fair amount of the GOP money and bull**** machine behind him. He could well win the nomination given the newly-compressed primary schedule as a result, but has no chance in hell of winning the general election. Which will give the White House to the Dems.

31 posted on 02/18/2007 1:30:23 PM PST by dirtboy (Duncan Hunter 08)
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To: nctexan
Would be interesting to hear thoughts on his candidate. Kinda sounding like Hillary might be their man.

I fought the Clintons tooth and nail when Slick was president, jack. WHAT DID YOU DO TO FIGHT THEM? Slime sure comes easy to the Rudy boosters - but I guess that's the case when you have little else in your quiver.

32 posted on 02/18/2007 1:31:28 PM PST by dirtboy (Duncan Hunter 08)
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To: dirtboy; All
Dude, Bush I lost because HE RAISED TAXES.

Read the comprehensive list a few posts up - it will enlighten you about Rudy's economic philosophy.

Elections are usually won on the economy (unless we're at war) and Rudy's got the goods on both those issues.

Or would you prefer a pure Stalinist who WILL try to introduce gay marriage, who WILL try to ban all guns, who WILL try to ban homeschooling - not to mention appoint HUNDREDS of Federal Judges who will make sure to 'make it so.'

Getting a clue now?

P.S. I don't know who Duncan Hunter is, I don't care who Duncan Hunter is (because his chance of being elected is 0.00000%), and people who are on bandwagons of unknown House Representatives are detached from reality....

33 posted on 02/18/2007 1:33:09 PM PST by Al Simmons (Holocaust-deniers and other anti-semites are the lowest forms of humanity.)
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To: Al Simmons

Hey! Now there's a tagline in there somewhere!


34 posted on 02/18/2007 1:35:06 PM PST by Al Simmons (People who are on bandwagons of unknown US House Reps are detached from reality)
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To: dirtboy

"has no chance in hell of winning the general election"

Do you have any empirical evidence to back this up? Most of the polls I see show Giuliani defeating Hillary and Osama Obama in the general.

Now, you may *want* Giuliani to lose, but there is nothing a priori that says reality must conform to the fantasies of dirtboy, TommyDale & co.


35 posted on 02/18/2007 1:36:12 PM PST by JHBowden (President Giuliani in 2008! Law and Order. Solid Judges. Free Markets. Killing Terrorists.)
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To: Al Simmons
Or would you prefer a pure Stalinist who WILL try to introduce gay marriage, who WILL try to ban all guns, who WILL try to ban homeschooling - not to mention appoint HUNDREDS of Federal Judges who will make sure to 'make it so.'

Your post describes a NYC liberal. Take your pick. Two are in the lead. One (R/L), the other (D/L). Same philosophy, different letter of the alphabet.

36 posted on 02/18/2007 1:37:38 PM PST by concerned about politics ("Get thee behind me, Liberal")
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To: dirtboy; Spiff; Reagan Man; beltfed308; Liz; TommyDale; TitansAFC
Rudy!! Rudy!! Rudy!! Cheering for Rudy.
37 posted on 02/18/2007 1:39:16 PM PST by raybbr (You think it's bad now - wait till the anchor babies start to vote.)
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To: JohnBovenmyer

BTW RE, the wife, who'd knowingly burned the evidence proving this was a terrorist attack, and the daughter, who lied about it for ten years and who apparently supports her father's agenda, why are they still walking around free? They should either be thrown in jail for interfering with a police investigation and destroying evidence, deported or both. Had they come forward with the evidence at the time and been able to convince a real investigation that they weren't knowing conspirators then they should have stayed free. Instead they'd make a nice example for justice.


38 posted on 02/18/2007 1:39:24 PM PST by JohnBovenmyer
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To: JHBowden
Do you have any empirical evidence to back this up? Most of the polls I see show Giuliani defeating Hillary and Osama Obama in the general.

You think polls now are an accurate indicator of 2008? Those same polls also show, once they dig below the beauty contest, that GOP voters have widespread misconceptions about Rudy. A large number think he is pro-life, for example.

And electoral history shows the dangers when the GOP lurches the bus leftward directly into the path of oncoming Democrats...

39 posted on 02/18/2007 1:39:27 PM PST by dirtboy (Duncan Hunter 08)
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To: Al Simmons
Dude, Bush I lost because HE RAISED TAXES.

In other words, he drifted to the left. He also alientated the NRA.

Leftward Ho! is not the course to set for electoral success in the GOP. Reagan showed that to the Rockefeller Republicans, who seem hell-bent to unlearn that lesson.

40 posted on 02/18/2007 1:40:36 PM PST by dirtboy (Duncan Hunter 08)
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