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CA: Expand coverage without raising taxes (When is a "tax" a "fee"? Ask aRnold and the dems.)
LA Daily News ^ | 2/15/07 | Chuck Devore

Posted on 02/18/2007 9:48:16 AM PST by NormsRevenge

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To: Mojave

Wrong again, Roscoe.


21 posted on 02/18/2007 1:54:34 PM PST by 68 grunt (3/1 India, 3rd, 68-69, 0311)
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To: NormsRevenge

It's not a tax, it's an oxygen usage fee.


22 posted on 02/18/2007 1:58:16 PM PST by reg45
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To: 68 grunt

Really? Why would Arnold acting like a socialist surprise you?

It's what you voted for.


23 posted on 02/18/2007 2:25:02 PM PST by Mojave
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To: Mojave

You're a freak, Roscoe. I'm still not sorry your candidate, Filthy Angelides, didn't win. That's what you and all the ilk herd wanted.


24 posted on 02/18/2007 3:04:25 PM PST by 68 grunt (3/1 India, 3rd, 68-69, 0311)
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To: 68 grunt
Hey Grut! I'm so glad you waited with baited breath!! Dang! I wish you'd quit eatin that sushi stuff, or at least turn your head whilst spewin and supportin that tax, borrow and spend, SPEND, SPENDING MONSTER LIBERAL YOU KEEP VOTIN INTO OUR GOVERNORSHIP!!!
25 posted on 02/18/2007 3:13:34 PM PST by SierraWasp (Get the Recall petition papers ready for signing up to Recall Arnold in the Feb. 2008 Primary!!!)
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To: 68 grunt
Filthy Angelides, didn't win

His agenda did. Enacted by your action hero Arnold.

Next time vote for principles instead of with your hormones.

26 posted on 02/18/2007 3:17:17 PM PST by Mojave
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To: SierraWasp

The more spittle you spew the more secure he is ... LMAO


27 posted on 02/18/2007 3:18:17 PM PST by 68 grunt (3/1 India, 3rd, 68-69, 0311)
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To: Mojave

Next time, Roscoe, I won't ask for your opinion, either.


28 posted on 02/18/2007 3:19:08 PM PST by 68 grunt (3/1 India, 3rd, 68-69, 0311)
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To: calcowgirl

Well... Until we can even educate ALL of our FReeper community to stop sliming CA by supportin and sliming nearly every thread with undying support for this screamin Liberal Governor they simply cannot stop swooning over... I'm sure glad SOMEBODY heard me!!!


29 posted on 02/18/2007 3:19:29 PM PST by SierraWasp (Get the Recall petition papers ready for signing up to Recall Arnold in the Feb. 2008 Primary!!!)
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To: calcowgirl
Like I said, all those tax hikes, bureaucracy and regulsation would be unnecessary if the state adopted a universal HSA plan. But that's not the way politicians think. They want you to remember them rather than you being left in charge of your life. What is this? Nothing more than a wildly expensive vote-buying scheme.

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelologus

30 posted on 02/18/2007 3:25:28 PM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: Popocatapetl

"If California chose this system over spending money to put people in jail, it could probably balance its budget with just a dozen crimes turned into fines."

Great idea! Bring back the wehrgelt! And while we're at it, let's sell indulgences!

Look, fundamentally, I'm with you, we shouldn't be criminalizing this behavior. But the difference between us is that I prefer to decriminalize consensual 'crimes,' while your 'solution' is to give the wealthy a get-out-of-jail-free card for cash. You fail to see that in so doing you are creating a class of moneyed nobles above certain laws. Cash does not equate to virtue--but you will be saying it does, and that will be a very, very dangerous thing.

"Only the poor go to jail, dahlink, it's so plebeian..."


31 posted on 02/18/2007 4:01:01 PM PST by LibertarianInExile (When personal character isn't relevant to voters or party leaders, Foley happens.)
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To: The Spirit Of Allegiance

Thanks for your post.


32 posted on 02/18/2007 5:04:00 PM PST by 4Liberty (Forced charity = theft. Privatization keeps the corrupt bastards competing against each other.)
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To: Mojave

I voted for Tom (McClinock).
Even though I'm a Libertarian.

Tom's great....


33 posted on 02/18/2007 5:06:29 PM PST by 4Liberty (Forced charity = theft. Privatization keeps the corrupt bastards competing against each other.)
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To: 68 grunt

I know! You want the dumb SOB to rule over us like a Queer Demonicrat forever and ever!!! I can't understand where you get the unmitigated gaul to even show your grunt face on a conservative website homebased in Austrian ruled Cauleeforneeah! And then to get lippy on top of that!! Just shows you're oblivious to the obvious!!! (won't any of your friends tell this?)


34 posted on 02/18/2007 5:25:44 PM PST by SierraWasp (Get the Recall petition papers ready for signing up to Recall Arnold in the Feb. 2008 Primary!!!)
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To: LibertarianInExile

I am not saying that the wealthy are above the law, just that they can pay back society in a better way than by society having to pay for their jail time.

I also noted that this applied to 1st time offenders only.
If they do it a 2nd time, off to jail they go.

And if you think about it, how many people would be willing to even go into debt to get up the $10,000 to $30,000 so that they would not have to go to jail for months? To go to jail would quite likely cost them their job, and make it hard for them to get another job.

No reason why anybody with a job can't afford such a fine. It could even be paid on the installment plan to the State. It doesn't matter if it takes four years to pay off.

The bottom line is a philosophy that if your actions endanger the public, then your punishment should be to help the public. $10,000 could go a long way for social services. And $10,000 paid by 30,000 people a year would be a great way to atone for their wrongs--assuming that nobody was harmed during their crime.


35 posted on 02/18/2007 6:51:24 PM PST by Popocatapetl
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To: SierraWasp
... Just shows you're oblivious to the obvious!!! (won't any of your friends tell this?)

My, oh my, the stupid one is upset. An old fool, or just a fool, you decide ...

36 posted on 02/19/2007 2:37:23 AM PST by 68 grunt (3/1 India, 3rd, 68-69, 0311)
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