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Rudy on Abortion (He was for it before he was against it)
Yahoo ^ | 2/17/07

Posted on 02/17/2007 3:16:46 PM PST by Mr. Brightside

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To: Candor7

Hillary NEVER appears as she is....she is manipulative and a bigger waffler than even Kerry....I for one would never vote for Hillary over Rudy.....


41 posted on 02/17/2007 4:07:49 PM PST by NorCalRepub
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To: RussP

That 'fetus' is a living child, wirh his or her own body. Pregnancy is not the only life support/dependency situation law must consider ... it may come as a shock to you but pregnancy is the ONLY life support/dependency situation where someone is given a right to hire the killing of the depndent one. Until you can make a more reasonable case than you implied, you're on very shaky ground, just as the Blackmon court was in thier fiat ruling. There is a more reasonable perspective regarding pregnancy terminations, but I seriously doubt that you or lioberal Rudy would find it since the current killing process serves a leftist/selfish agenda so well.


42 posted on 02/17/2007 4:10:26 PM PST by MHGinTN (If you've had life support. Promote life support for others.)
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To: Jim Robinson

That is exactly right! Liberal democrats called Bush's court appointees "activist judges" in that they would overturn Roe v Wade. To them "settled law" of Roe over rules the constitution. I see the same happening with Rudy.


43 posted on 02/17/2007 4:13:20 PM PST by upsdriver ((Hunter for Pres/ Ann Coulter Sec, of State))
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To: Hildy
"I'm voting for Rudy because, to quote Dennis Miller, he's the one the guys in caves are afraid of."

I'm voting against him because everyone that believes in the right to keep and bear arms are afraid of him.

Those that care about family values and wont go along with the Queer agenda being pushed in school on our children are afraid of him.

All those innocent children butchered just before they take their first breath are afraid of him and anyone else that could condone that evil practice.

But I'm not afraid of him or anyone that promotes him. I'll do everything I can to protect the 2nd Amendment, innocent children, and my conservative Republican party!
44 posted on 02/17/2007 4:20:22 PM PST by Beagle8U (Jimmy Carter changed me into a Republican.......R. W. Reagan made me DAMN proud of it!)
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To: MHGinTN

"That 'fetus' is a living child, wirh his or her own body. Pregnancy is not the only life support/dependency situation law must consider ... it may come as a shock to you but pregnancy is the ONLY life support/dependency situation where someone is given a right to hire the killing of the depndent one."

Fine, but you apparently missed or ignored my original point. Pregnancy is the only "life support/dependency situation" in which the dependent is physically *inside* the person depended upon. Like it or not, that makes it fundamentally different from any other "life support/dependency situation."


45 posted on 02/17/2007 4:22:53 PM PST by RussP
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To: NorCalRepub
"I think bringing up draft deferments is difficult considering Cheney's many many deferments..."

Guess I missed the part where Cheney was running for President. Could you fill me in?

46 posted on 02/17/2007 4:22:56 PM PST by Post-Neolithic (Money only makes Communists rich Communists)
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To: Beagle8U

If we lose the War on Terror, you'll have your wish, except for the gun thing because I guarantee you a Muslim society will not allow abortions and the queers you hate? They'll be dead. So I guess you'll be happy then.


47 posted on 02/17/2007 4:24:18 PM PST by Hildy (RUDY IN 2008)
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To: NorCalRepub
Hillary is manipulative and a bigger waffler than even Kerry

I must have missed that.

Has Hillary ever waffled on abortion?

No. At least Hillary/Kennedy/Barney Frank have the courage to stand up for what they believe in.

48 posted on 02/17/2007 4:24:29 PM PST by Mr. Brightside
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To: Post-Neolithic

Flashbunny brought up the Rudy had draft "exemptions"... and it was used as a character issue....so no, Cheney is not running....but if you bring it up as a character issue, it should apply to everyone.....I try to apply the same rules to everyone so as not to be a hypocrite....just my 2 cents


49 posted on 02/17/2007 4:27:06 PM PST by NorCalRepub
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To: Mogollon
He is better than any democRAT but it seems to me we could find someone better.

Not really. He's to the left of Joe Lieberman, Ben Nelson, Bill Nelson, Max Baucus, etc. He's a middle of the road internationalist Democrat. Giuliani would be a formidable Democratic candidate for President in 2008.

50 posted on 02/17/2007 4:27:17 PM PST by Alter Kaker (Hard headed brainwashed trained monkey)
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To: Mr. Brightside; All

Please start endorsing other candidates instead of tearing apart Rudi. You waste everyones time trashing him when you could be promoting someone else who has the best conservative values that we all want....BUT MOST OF ALL....this candidate MUST be able to BEAT Hillary/Obama.


51 posted on 02/17/2007 4:29:47 PM PST by Fawn (LEMME IN http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WkMIdfwo32Y&eurl=)
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To: Mr. Brightside

...not on abortion....but if you ever hear the Repub pundits, you'll know she waffles on the WOT big time... no deadline, now she wants a deadline....was touting her vote when Saddam was captured, then dismissing it when necessary....I'm not just talking about one position, but many.....even Chrissy Matthews the other day said she changed positions according to audience....coming from him, that is scathing.....


52 posted on 02/17/2007 4:29:55 PM PST by NorCalRepub
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To: RussP

I didn't think you or liberal Rudy would see a better way. Confirms why not to trust Rudy or folks like you when the issues are life or death.


53 posted on 02/17/2007 4:30:08 PM PST by MHGinTN (If you've had life support. Promote life support for others.)
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To: Hildy
"If we lose the War on Terror, you'll have your wish, except for the gun thing because I guarantee you a Muslim society will not allow abortions and the queers you hate? They'll be dead. So I guess you'll be happy then."

Rudy would ban the guns before the Muslim terrorists crawled over the open borders to seek refuge in his sanctuary city that protects illegals. We would have no way to fight back. Would that make you happy?
54 posted on 02/17/2007 4:31:42 PM PST by Beagle8U (Jimmy Carter changed me into a Republican.......R. W. Reagan made me DAMN proud of it!)
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To: Hildy

We are not going to lose the war on terror, no matter who wins the election. We may have setbacks, but we will prevail. I am more concerned about losing our culture from enemies within.


55 posted on 02/17/2007 4:32:56 PM PST by upsdriver ((Hunter for Pres/ Ann Coulter Sec, of State))
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To: Beagle8U

Oh Geez..a tad dramatic, no?


56 posted on 02/17/2007 4:34:10 PM PST by Hildy (RUDY IN 2008)
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To: upsdriver

oh sure, we'll prevail. if Hillary becomes president, you are confident we'll prevail.

after all, the Clintons did such a good job the last time they had stewardship of this nation's military and intelligence apparatus for 8 years - we only lost the two tallest buildings in the United States, lower manhattan destroyed, along with part of the Pentagon.

I know alot of freepers don't like Rudy, and that's fine. But some of the claims in these posts are just wild.


57 posted on 02/17/2007 4:37:16 PM PST by oceanview
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To: Fawn
Most of us would vote for the bottom of the barrel, if he was the only one left.

But a lot of us would not.
58 posted on 02/17/2007 4:37:58 PM PST by Mr. Brightside
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To: Fawn

actually, Rasmussen is now polling Hillary vs Gingrich. its 50-43 Hillary right now. all the freepers who don't like any of the "top 3" republicans right now, they honestly ought to be making a move to convince Gingrich to get into the race.


59 posted on 02/17/2007 4:39:04 PM PST by oceanview
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To: MHGinTN

I should have known you were not interested in a rational debate.

You might be interested to know that even in North Dakota (or was it South Dakota?), an attempt to make abortion illegal (with the usual exceptions) failed miserably. Such an attempt could possibly succeed in a few southern states, but how do you suppose it would fare nationally?

I'll tell you how it would fare. It would sink the Republican Party into oblivion.

If hard-core pro-lifers refuse to see that and refuse to vote for any pro-choice Republican candidate, that will only make a dire situation even worse for Republicans. And the radical Leftist Democrats will love every minute of it.


60 posted on 02/17/2007 4:39:14 PM PST by RussP
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