The Religious Right's Era Is Over

Time ^ | February 16, 2007 | Jim Wallis

[MACVSOG68]

Where did you receive your history lessons? LOL!

In the real world, not the fantasy one perpetuated by some here.

[don-o]

Perhaps, but the polls don't agree with you.

I need to see more detail on where all this support is coming from and how deep it is.

[MACVSOG68]

You're confusing freedom with license.

Yes, to most Americans, they are freedoms. To the RR, it's merely license to sin.

[SaintDismas]

Oh please don't be so depressed! Buck up and soldier on friend! You and I and like-minded can't just watch and let these people who pretend to be our enlightened leaders lead us down the road to perdition. Truth wins everytime. At least you'll know in your heart of hearts that YOU ARE RIGHT, and your righteousness will be rewarded, if only in your own conviction

[B-Chan]

"[R]eligion has too often been used as a wedge to divide people, rather than as a bridge to bring us together on those most critical questions."

"Do not think that I came to send peace upon earth: I came not to send peace, but the sword." - Matthew 10:35

[MACVSOG68]

You guys don't take long to show your true colors. Your way of thinking was well captured in The Greater Generation: In Defense of the Baby Boomer Legacy, a secularist screed that argues we are a better country because we are free to shack up with other guys and/or shack up with girls and then kill any babies that result. Rudy is your kinda guy.

Notice how those who cannot defend an argument, attack the poster.

But then tell me all about the social conservatives who helped eliminate segregation in schools, who helped pass the Civil Rights Act, who fought against those who would deprive all Americans of their basic right to privacy. If those are my true colors, I wear them proudly.

[MHGinTN]

You offered (as if some authority), All I find is that all his friends were prostitutes and tax collectors ... Actually, you haven't a clue. Did you know a significant number were fishermen? When someone spittles 'all' and then makes apology for moral degeneracy in the same post, it reveals a lot about their clueless state. Such foolishness is a hallmark of the lost like Willis.

[OKIEDOC]

Just my lowly opinino nut here go's.

THESE PEOPLE ARE EITHER STUPID OR NAVIETE.

Sounds like Democrat talking points.

The whole article is nothing but wishful thinking on their part about how they hope to turn Christians away from their roots.

Any one who denies their roots is asking for trouble.

To paraphrase, the bible says that in the end times their will be many silver tongued devil charlatans who will lead good Christians astray.

It's good that Wallis has some facts straight but BAD that he is misleading with his enlightenment of new young ministers.

I will never buy same sex marriage, two men or women together,desecration of the family unit,the redefining of Christ, posing as a Christian (Obama, Pelosie, Reid, Hellary, Jesse Jackson, Al Sharpton) or any other of the gobbled gook these nuts are trying to pass as the gospel truth.

[TommyDale]

Well, your educator left out the part where "social conservatives" not only won our freedom, but they also wrote the Constitution that the current social conservatives are fighting to keep intact.

[Popocatapetl]

Haw. Next issue: "Is conservatism dying?", followed by "The death of the republican party", "Is socialism the only possible course for the future?", "Will democrats win all the seats in congress and the presidency in 2008?", "Does America really need a military?", etc.

[madprof98]

. . . fought against those who would deprive all Americans of their basic right to privacy

Sodomy and abortion - that's what Giuliani stands for; that's what his followers stand for.

[Old Professer]

Popular opinion has all the durability of a week-old souffle.

[MACVSOG68]

I need to see more detail on where all this support is coming from and how deep it is.

Why, would that change your mind? At this point, fifteen months away from an election, I would question the depth of support for any presidential candidate. But what is happening here on FR is being laughed at on other sites, both left and right. FR is attempting to destroy its own best chance of winning an election. People here will do their best to destroy Rudi, McCain, Romney and yes, even Newt. The left doesn't have to spend a dime researching, it's all here.

People here have to gather a bit of realism to add to their "social" zeal. Hunter, Tancredo, Brownback and others simply do not have the money nor national backing to seriously entertain their candidacy. They do offer ideas that should be listened to by the major candidates, but as with the Democrat candidates in 2004, offer little more than entertainment to the electorate.

[MHGinTN]

Good catch! ... something about having the form of but denying the power there of?

[CyberAnt]

Well .. wait until they get a load of GOD in the Miggido Valley throwing rocks and destroying whole armies in one breath! They will be trembling in their boots, if not falling over dead from fear.

I can hardly wait .. I just hope I live to see it!!

The Religious Right will be the group picking up the pieces.

[MACVSOG68]

Well, your educator left out the part where "social conservatives" not only won our freedom, but they also wrote the Constitution that the current social conservatives are fighting to keep intact.

I wouldn't call it keeping intact, but rather keeping it relegated to their particular value system. And when it doesn't meet their value system, they have no problem changing it, either to restrict the 10th Amendment powers of the states, or the 1st Amendment freedom of speech.

[madprof98]

. . . what is happening here on FR is being laughed at on other sites, both left and right.

Oh, really, and which other sites are those?

[Old Professer]

From an essay in your link by Wallis he uses the word, commodification, to describe how sex is used by the media; I submit that his entire theme here is exactly that in relation to politics and it is the church that is being led to accept his thesis and not the other way around.

My uncle is fond of saying that too many people are only comfortable with God when they have him on a leash.

[TommyDale]

There could be a few radicals, as there are in any segment. They don't speak for the whole.