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Corporate bosses against school vouchers
American Thinker ^ | 2-14-07 | Douglas Hanson

Posted on 02/16/2007 6:36:46 PM PST by AlaninSA

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I'm not shopping at H-E-B...if Charles Butt (yes, that's his real name!) wants to engage in this kind of thing...my grocery shopping will go somewhere else.
1 posted on 02/16/2007 6:36:49 PM PST by AlaninSA
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To: AlaninSA

I'm more concerned about what vouchers will do to private schools.


2 posted on 02/16/2007 6:39:53 PM PST by CindyDawg
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To: AlaninSA

It's interesting that the voucher opponents always frame the argument as public vs nonpublic schools, not good/bad educational outcomes. Clearly they view public schools as the end, not the means.


3 posted on 02/16/2007 6:44:38 PM PST by John Jorsett (scam never sleeps)
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To: AlaninSA

What schools did (do) Butt and Whitacre send their children?


4 posted on 02/16/2007 6:51:16 PM PST by Maine Mariner
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I'm more concerned about what vouchers will do to private schools.

Do you mean that if private schools accept gov voucher students, then the government will want to tell them how to run their schools?

Nah, the government wouldn't do that would they>

5 posted on 02/16/2007 6:53:31 PM PST by Graybeard58 (Remember and pray for SSgt. Matt Maupin - MIA/POW- Iraq since 04/09/04)
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To: AlaninSA

Public schools seem a lot like socialism. Why can't parents pay for their kid's education and leave me out of it?
I would be willing to pay a share of the upkeep on the infrastructure (building and property).


6 posted on 02/16/2007 7:02:00 PM PST by Abcdefg
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To: wintertime; Clintonfatigued

ping


7 posted on 02/16/2007 7:29:35 PM PST by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: DaveLoneRanger; 2Jedismom; Aggie Mama; agrace; Antoninus; arbooz; bboop; blu; cgk; ...

ANOTHER REASON TO HOMESCHOOL

This ping list is for the "other" articles of interest to homeschoolers about education and public school. If you want on/off this list, please freepmail me. The main Homeschool Ping List by DaveLoneRanger handles the homeschool-specific articles.
8 posted on 02/16/2007 7:30:25 PM PST by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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I'd be happy to do that...I pay massive property taxes to fund our schools here in the San Antonio area - and I also send my kids to Catholic school. Double payment...and I only use one of the services for which I'm paying.


9 posted on 02/16/2007 7:39:15 PM PST by AlaninSA ("Beware the fury of a patient man." - John Dryden)
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To: metmom; A. Pole

Public schools are designed to turn students into mindless, low-paid employees who have little ambition and no initiative, thus always in the pockets of large businesses. It's no wonder that the much of the business community opposes vouchers.


10 posted on 02/16/2007 8:08:25 PM PST by Clintonfatigued (If the GOP were to stop worshiping Free Trade as if it were a religion, they'd win every election)
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If they're poorly educated, their career options are pretty limited and they have to stay where they are or risk losing their income.


11 posted on 02/16/2007 8:18:59 PM PST by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: AlaninSA

I am a public school teacher.

I support school vouchers.

It puts pressure on kids to perform better.

It puts pressure on staff to perform better.

It slashes meaningless administration and evenly distributes tax money.


12 posted on 02/16/2007 8:45:21 PM PST by struggle ((The struggle continues))
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To: Graybeard58

Nah. Of course not.


13 posted on 02/16/2007 9:01:48 PM PST by CindyDawg
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To: Temple Owl


14 posted on 02/16/2007 9:03:43 PM PST by Tribune7 (A bleeding heart does nothing but ruin the carpet.)
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I don't like vouchers, so I don't have a problem with this. We have a viable and growing private school system along with home education. In my view, vouchers endanger that.

One thing you can take to the bank is that any voucher system will come with many strings attached. Those strings will most likely manifest themselves as controls over the curriculum. Don't like "Heather has Two Mommies"? Well you'll like it even less when the private schools add it to their curriculum because it's required to preserve their voucher cashflow. Also remember that the same administrators responsible for the stellar "successes" in the government schools will most likely be the ones appointed to administer voucher programs.

I don't see the attraction of vouchers. All they represent is the substitution of one government program for another, the substitution of one tax for another. Apparently the concept of paying for your own children's education is just too horrible a thought for many "conservatives."


15 posted on 02/17/2007 4:21:29 AM PST by RKBA Democrat (Lord Jesus Christ, Son of God, have mercy on me, a sinner!)
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I once held the view, similar to yours.

Quite a number of years back, Economist Milton Friedman laid out with great clarity the "why" of vouchers. And, his wisdom is bang-on correct.

16 posted on 02/17/2007 5:10:54 AM PST by Alia
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I'd be happy to do that...I pay massive property taxes to fund our schools here in the San Antonio area - and I also send my kids to Catholic school. Double payment...and I only use one of the services for which I'm paying.

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Please call the "double payment" what it is.

It is a **Freedom of Conscience Ransom!***

So? ...What would happen if you did not **ransom** your children from government schools? Answer: The government would FORCE your child to attend.

What would happen if you refused to cooperated with the government school? Answer: Armed police with court orders, and social workers would soon be at your door.

What would happen if you continue to resist the government schools? Answer: Prison.

There are real bullets in those guns on the hips.

For exactly describing the police power that government schools have over our lives, and for calling "double payment" what it really is ( a Freedom of Conscience Ransom) the government school defenders will accuse me of using "hyperbole" and "inflammatory language."

By the way,,,the same consequences await any business or home owner who refuses to pay for government school indoctrination.

Government schools are a freedom of conscience abomination!
17 posted on 02/17/2007 5:21:22 AM PST by wintertime
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I was just discussing this with my husband. My question was, "Why would any business line up for or against this issue? Why would any business antagonize any of their customers?"

My husband's quick quip: "AT&T isn't a very smart business. You have to work very hard at losing the amount of money they have over the years!"
18 posted on 02/17/2007 5:31:02 AM PST by wintertime
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I would be willing to pay a share of the upkeep on the infrastructure (building and property).

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I would as well, only if the government school buildings and facilities were open to ALL community groups. ( private schools, girl scouts, Elks,,,etc.)

The government school theaters, gyms, pools, and playing fields could be managed by the Parks and Recreation department, and OPEN TO ALL!


19 posted on 02/17/2007 5:52:21 AM PST by wintertime
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To: wintertime
I don't know about elsewhere; but, in CA pub ed, businesses wrangle for the "opportunity" to get free PR at the schools.

In CA, hollywoodites promote their movies for classrooms, gatorade versus its competitor -- it's not just the 'adds' and free give-aways; it also takes place in the form of what vending machines appear on campuses.

20 posted on 02/17/2007 6:58:13 AM PST by Alia
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