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Jeb Bush steers advisers toward Romney
AP ^ | BRENDAN FARRINGTON, Associated Press Writer

Posted on 02/16/2007 10:03:13 AM PST by DeerfieldObserver

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To: zbigreddogz

The NY MSM want their favorite Male? and Female? to be the only choice for POTUS!

They can have a socialist with a D by ITS name or a democrat with an R by ITS name.

Win, win for MSM, loss, loss for America!



41 posted on 02/20/2007 12:33:51 PM PST by HuntsvilleTxVeteran (Vote for RINOS, lose and complain by sending a self-abused stomped elephant.)
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To: HuntsvilleTxVeteran

And that has what to do with what the Democrats want?

If you think the Democrats are more afraid of Duncan Hunter then Giuliani or McCain, you're hopeless.


42 posted on 02/20/2007 12:37:03 PM PST by zbigreddogz
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To: EternalVigilance

LOL!!! And I thought you had exposed yourself as being stupid before. Calling Jeb a RINO is even worse then your normal rantings. He was the most consistently Conservative Governor in all 50 states, and he did so in a large swing state.

Don't you have some work to do for Alan Keys? I'm sure he'll appoint you Sec. of State if he ever wins.


43 posted on 02/20/2007 12:39:13 PM PST by zbigreddogz
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To: derlauerer

"When the facts change, I change my mind".



Perception is not fact. Projection is not reality.

Facts are absolute and do not change. Circumstances and context change in which the interpretation of facts may rightly vary.

Integrity persists--or loses. Character matters.

Character strives to discern absolute truth and act accordingly.


44 posted on 02/20/2007 12:45:27 PM PST by The Spirit Of Allegiance (Public Employees: Honor Your Oaths! Defend the Constitution from Enemies--Foreign and Domestic!)
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To: zbigreddogz

Jeb Bush and Mitt Romney are both constitutional morons. It's no wonder there's an affinity.

Jeb allowed his executive power to be co-opted by a tinpot local judge in the service of dehydrating a defenseless young woman to death, in direct contradiction of Article One, Section Two of the Florida Constitution, which he had sworn to uphold.

Mitt did the same when he used his executive offices to implement the unconstitutional Goodridge decision which brought about gay marriage.


45 posted on 02/20/2007 12:49:16 PM PST by EternalVigilance (The Talented Mr. Romney: It's better to be a fake somebody than a real nobody)
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To: EternalVigilance
I see. You are on your Roy "The Constitution means what I say it means, and if anybody disagrees, I have the right to ignore the court" Moore kicks again.

Say hi to Roy for me.

46 posted on 02/20/2007 1:31:22 PM PST by zbigreddogz
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To: zbigreddogz

I didn't mention Roy, you did.


47 posted on 02/20/2007 1:36:00 PM PST by EternalVigilance (The Talented Mr. Romney: It's better to be a fake somebody than a real nobody)
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To: EternalVigilance

That's a bit like someone going on a rant on how great Communism is, and then saying in response to someone bringing up Lennin "I didn't mention Lennin, you did."

You are taking the standard Moore/Keys view that courts only matter if they are 'right', and are free to be ignored if they are 'wrong'. Which is, of course, to say they don't matter at all. But neither Moore nor Keys is intellectually honest enough to admit, and neither are you.


48 posted on 02/20/2007 1:44:01 PM PST by zbigreddogz
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To: zbigreddogz

I'm taking the position that chief executives have a duty to protect the Constitution, just as they swore to do when they raised their right hand and recited their oath.


49 posted on 02/20/2007 1:45:37 PM PST by EternalVigilance (The Talented Mr. Romney: It's better to be a fake somebody than a real nobody)
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To: zbigreddogz

Your position, not unlike the position of too many in our political world today, and not unlike Mitt Romney and Jeb Bush, is that we no longer have a republican form of government. We are now ruled by judicial oligarchs.


50 posted on 02/20/2007 1:47:39 PM PST by EternalVigilance (The Talented Mr. Romney: It's better to be a fake somebody than a real nobody)
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To: EternalVigilance

Yes, I am aware of your opinion that Governors should destroy the separation of powers and take upon themselves the power of the Judiciary if you don't like what the Judiciary does.

In other words, I am well aware that you are basically a quasi-Monarchist.


51 posted on 02/20/2007 2:12:06 PM PST by zbigreddogz
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To: zbigreddogz
Florida Constitution
ARTICLE One
SECTION Two

Basic rights.--All natural persons, female and male alike, are equal before the law and have inalienable rights, among which are the right to enjoy and defend life and liberty, to pursue happiness, to be rewarded for industry, and to acquire, possess and protect property; except that the ownership, inheritance, disposition and possession of real property by aliens ineligible for citizenship may be regulated or prohibited by law. No person shall be deprived of any right because of race, religion, national origin, or physical disability.

Which part of that don't you and Jeb understand?

52 posted on 02/20/2007 2:17:15 PM PST by EternalVigilance (The Talented Mr. Romney: It's better to be a fake somebody than a real nobody)
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To: HuntsvilleTxVeteran
The democrats are licking their jowls over the hope that Rudy, Romney or McCain will be the MSM and RNC choice for the republican nominee.

You are making an assertion based on no evidence.

The evidence says otherwise. For example, the DNC has produced scads of anti-Romney Press Releases

Which candidate do your reckon the DNC trembles at in fear? Brownback? Hagel? Freeper fave Duncan Hunter has only merited two DNC press releases.

Likewise, the DNC's MSM minions have produced plenty of negatively toned stories against Romney, while neglecting to disdain other GOP candidates.

53 posted on 02/20/2007 2:28:30 PM PST by Plutarch
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To: EternalVigilance

The part where it says that the court can be ignored if we don't like it.

OH WAIT, it doesn't say that.



54 posted on 02/20/2007 2:31:17 PM PST by zbigreddogz
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To: zbigreddogz

What if the court issued an order to kill YOU?

Would the court be worthy of ignoring? Or do you think the chief executive should exert all of his power to back up the out-of-control judge instead doing so in defense of YOUR inalienable rights?


55 posted on 02/20/2007 2:35:47 PM PST by EternalVigilance (The Talented Mr. Romney: It's better to be a fake somebody than a real nobody)
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To: The Spirit Of Allegiance
Perception is not fact.

Agreed.

Projection is not reality.

Agreed.

Facts are absolute and do not change. Circumstances and context change in which the interpretation of facts may rightly vary.

That is true, but incomplete. The set of facts pertaining to a given case may change as new information becomes available, and in the face of such a change, an honest man will necessarily amend his view. That is what I understand Keynes to have meant by his words.

Integrity persists--or loses. Character matters.

Character strives to discern absolute truth and act accordingly.

I agree with this also, but it seems to me that you and I are talking about two different aspects of the way in which one should approach Truth. (Capitalization used to distinguish absolute Truth from perceived truth).

56 posted on 02/20/2007 2:36:09 PM PST by derlauerer ("Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity." - N. Bonaparte)
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To: zbigreddogz

Oh, wait. You think your rights are superior to those of a disabled women. What was I thinking...


57 posted on 02/20/2007 2:37:23 PM PST by EternalVigilance (The Talented Mr. Romney: It's better to be a fake somebody than a real nobody)
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To: EternalVigilance

It is irrelevant. You are doing exactly what I said you are doing, and that is using end justifies the means, and undermining the legitimacy of your claim.

The fact that the court is not just does not remove it's authority under the current structure. It might mean we need new laws or new judges, but it wouldn't matter for me. I wouldn't challenge the authority of the courts to judge.

By your logic, if the police came to arrest me, and they were 'wrong' in arresting me because their interpretation of the statute under which they were arresting me was 'wrong', I'd be perfectly justified in killing them.

Your 'end justifies the means' logic is straight out of Hillary Clinton's logic.

Question: seeming as how you seem to reply to most of my posts with two posts instead of one, does Alan Keys pay you by the post?


58 posted on 02/20/2007 2:45:49 PM PST by zbigreddogz
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To: DeerfieldObserver

Why not Jeb on a Romney ticket as VP?


59 posted on 02/20/2007 2:49:31 PM PST by moondoggie
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To: zbigreddogz
It is irrelevant.

The truth comes out.

60 posted on 02/20/2007 2:52:15 PM PST by EternalVigilance (The Talented Mr. Romney: It's better to be a fake somebody than a real nobody)
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