Posted on 02/16/2007 4:56:04 AM PST by Spiff
Wow! You've found a full-on black helicopter, tin foil hat conspiracy right there, I tell ya. Land is the leader of one of the most conservative Christian organizations in the nation, but he had Jew write the foreword to his book. What's the frequency, Kenneth? < /sarc >
"Rudy's their savior and any criticism of him for his extreme left views makes them howl in rage, just as they are doing on this thread."
Isn't that what liberals do?
If the GOP controlled Senate had any backbone, President Bush would have pushed those judges through. You can't blame the President for that one. How will Rudy get anyone through except liberal judges, especially now that the Democrats will control the Senate?
The Constitution Party is dead in the water....they are Anti-Israel and subcribe to what is called "Replacement Theology"....
Look folks...you have two choices so far...Duncan or possibly Newt (despite his weaknesses)...
If conservatives boycot the election Hillary or whomever gets the whitehouse....
Lets get real....OK?
Either some conservatives swallow their pride on we will see a Dem in the whitehouse. Its gonna be close as it is.....the red states are growing smaller while the blue states get bigger
I guess you wouldn't have voted for evil Christian conservative Ronald Reagan then.
So a party can't change their platform? I guess Democrats still support slavery, huh?
If Rudy gets the Nomination...I won't vote...Period.
So you backers of Hunter and Newt better get a fire lit soon.
Look, there's been an uneasy alliance between the old-line GOP types and the social conservatives since the very start, and maybe it is time to address some of the things that have made the alliance uneasy instead of sweeping it under the rug for 30 years, but is going that far really productive?
That is sooooooooooo self evident.
That puts it exactly right - The problem with those pictures has to do with the state, not the government. That is, the British PM is head of government but not the head of state, at present Queen Elizabeth II.Here the situation is otherwise - we need a Washington or a Reagan who can be a dignified head of state as well as the head of the government. Likewise, the multiple marriages. It was one thing to have Reagan, who (since it was not he but his first wife who wanted the divorce) was not the offender in the breaking of his initial family. But AFAIK that's not clearly the case with Guliani, Gingrich, or McCain. Which leaves only Romney as a good candidate for head of state. For head of government, Gingrich would be the choice.
Which finally leaves us looking for a more suitable candidate generally. Leave aside the immigration issue (and the fact that people are tired of the last name) and the obvious answer would be Jeb Bush. I suspect that the immigration issue will probably be moot by then. Not in a way you and I will necessarily like, but . . .
So I guess my desire for this primary season is: no decision. Nobody who I actually want to be POTUS is gonna go into the convention with a lock on the nomination, so better that the convention sort it out. IMHO.
First it was "if McCain gets the nomination, we won't vote, period." Now it's "if Rudy gets the nomination, we won't vote, period."
Bush won. He was never strongly anti abortion, other than in words. He spoke of a need to "change people's hearts," but never pushed an anti-abortion platform.
Rudy and McCain are basically the same. Both see it as mainly a state's issue. Both are willing to allow some abortions. Both are opposed to partial birth abortion except to save a mother's life. Both believe in fairly strong parental notification. I predict that neither will touch the "right third rail" of gun control.
I also believe that the number of far rightwingers who will sit on their hands on election day will be greatly outnumbered by the moderates who will vote for Rudy or McCain.
With the latest poll here, it is pretty clear that a Rudy run would meet an ugly end in the general election.
Land is considered an influential evangelical leader
He is???? Never heard of him. I think that the Influential Evangelical Leaders are Haggard, Farwell, Robertson, and that glasses wearing fello who had a stroke (can't think of his name). Land is hardly influential unless the population of the United States has at least heard of him.
if Rudy or McCain get the nomination by the GOP, I will vote.
I just won't vote for either of them -- or the Democrat nominee.
Land is an official with the Southern Baptist Convention, which is a rather large denomination, so he's not unknown. I attend a Southern Baptist church, although I don't consider myself a Southern Baptist, theologically I don't have a lot of use for denominations and I'm troubled a bit by the way things are going worship-wise in a lot of Southern Baptist churches including my own although that's grist for another thread; the point is I would wager most Southern Baptists have heard of him.
Which is your right. In my younger days I made a few "statement votes." Never again, though ... stakes are too high now.
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