Posted on 02/15/2007 5:55:38 PM PST by Checkers
Just shows how leftist Generals can be as idiotic and blind to the dangers of terrorism. Wesley Clarke is another example of a moron who went up through the ranks under Clinton but is dumb as a bucket of rocks. Immediate withdrawal is NOT an option!
I just listened to this interview with Odam and dont know what to think.
I was shaking my head in disbelief at 95% of what he had to say
I'm stunned and speechless (and a bit sad)...
He only wants to get a few million democrats killed, maybe it's worth it.???
Perhaps the General is less than pleased with his pension and just wants to tour some left wing talk circuits for big bucks
There are quite a few of them out there prostituting themselves to the MSM for 15 minutes of fame. They are beneath contempt...
Some of what he says makes sense. You need a constitutional order for real freedom, and Arabs may very well be incapable of it.
And it may be true that we are giving other countries an ideal opening for anti-Americanism, because they can afford to sit back and badmouth us while we do all the dirty work.
But when he gets to Saddam's killings, he is completely off the mark.
And he is also off the mark about Iran being harmless. If that idiot Carter and the French hadn't overthrown the Shah, a lot of our current problems would never have arisen. Iran and Saudi Arabia are the two biggest sponsors of terrorism around the world.
Muslims are, indeed a problem. It's a question if they can ever live in free societies, because their elites are, indeed, corrupt and vicious. On the other hand, they have spent the past 1,500 years conquering the world and killing Christians. Are we supposed to just back off and let them pull another 9/11 on an even larger scale?
Ignoring the problem certainly isn't a solution.
Who needs enemies with generals such as this?
While I respect and honor his service to our country, I can't imagine how he can possibly not see that if we pull out, we lose more that Iraq, we lose any shred of credibility with our allies who have stood with us.
The terrorists win.
Our military will go back to handing out food and will no longer face down evil and oppression. Back to treating terrorism as a "police matter".
"WO: Yes, there are only about 24, 25, 26 countries in the world of 191 members at the United Nations that have truly liberal democracies. There are lots of democracies, but they’re illiberal, meaning that they have various levels of tyranny. Rights are not secure, Russia has elections, India has elections, it has a great reputation as a democracy, but your property rights are not stable at the lower, at the village level. A mother-in-law can throw acid in the face of a daughter-in-law and not be taken to the court. There are lots of illiberal things about it. Now those countries are all in the Western political tradition, with a very few exceptions. Japan and I would include South Korea and Taiwan now. The rule on political scientists is their constitutional order generally sticks if it lasts for a generation, about 20 years or more. So the countries I count are ones that have had stable, liberal orders for more than a generation....
Here’s what constitutes a constitutional order. It’s not a piece of paper. A piece of paper, as the Russians, they can put up with anything written on it. The British don’t have a written constitution. It is an agreement on three things at least. Rules to decide who rules, rules to make new rules, rights the state cannot abridge. Now who must agree? If you have a referendum, that’s irrelevant. The elites must agree. Who are the elites? Anybody with enough guns or enough money, or both, to violate the rules with impunity if they want to. Now every one of those countries have groups that violate the rules with impunity, even though they have a constitutional order, I mean, a piece of paper. So I’m looking at countries where the rules have been made stick. By this standard, when did we get a Constitution? Only in 1865."
Great quote.
He's gone native. Native being transnational progressive.
One of the great failings of the Bush administration is not getting the facts of the mass graves and the atrocities of Saddam better known to the American people. All during S's trial, the anti-American DBM could have shown mass graves, people shredders, etc. side-by-side with S's face. Instead they chose to show S. mocking the procedings.
General Odom strikes me as a media hound. He has been bashing this administration for many years. The best way to be loved by the DBM is to bash Pres. Bush.
PING...
This is what I heard....in all of its horror.
It's just unbelievable, where do we get such people?
Lord have mercy.
"As we begin to move out, countries who are not very cooperative with us, or wish us evil, are going to be worried about the aftermath. We cannot stabilize the whole region by ourselves. We’re going to need really important allies, not just our allies that we’ve bought to come in there with us for the invasion. And we’re going to need them both on the borders of Iraq, and we’re going to need Europeans, Indians, Chinese, Japanese and others to help us."
Can't disagree with the above.
If this is truly a GWOT, get some others fully involved, getting tired of the U.S. being mercenaries for the Arab countries...
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