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No Escape: Male Rape In U.S. Prisons
Human Rights Watch ^ | 2007.02.12 | Joanne Mariner

Posted on 02/12/2007 11:22:29 AM PST by B-Chan

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To: MovementConservative
Hi MovementConservative-

"...Sorry, bub. If I ended up in the slammer and was targetted for rape, they would first have to kill me. I'd fight with every inch of life left before I'd allow that. I'd rather die a man than survive as someone's woman..."


Sometimes fights don't go as planned when the victim is outnumbered 15-to-1 and the people who started the fight don't necessarily wish for you to die. BTW, the women of this forum sincerely appreciate your insightful commentary.

~ Blue Jays ~

181 posted on 02/12/2007 12:25:43 PM PST by Blue Jays (Rock Hard, Ride Free)
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To: Reeses
The old Soviet Union used to love to sentence the political prisoners and then throw em in with the common thugs to get their brains raped out of them. Savagery and thuggery are not a part of the sentencing process.
182 posted on 02/12/2007 12:27:09 PM PST by DreamsofPolycarp
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To: P-40
Fortunately it is a state matter, and not a religious one.

And as a state matter, you don't think the state ought be concerned about rampant illegal behavior?

183 posted on 02/12/2007 12:27:24 PM PST by Publius Valerius
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To: zook

Administering justice is not part of their job description. That they do it is improper although if someone went out of their way to hurt me or spit on me then hey, you get what you deserve in that case.


184 posted on 02/12/2007 12:27:25 PM PST by misterrob (Jack Bauer/Chuck Norris 2008)
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To: B-Chan

Don't break the law.

This guy was a thrice-convicted drunk driver. If you make the decision to break the law, you risk going to prison... with all its inherent dangers.


185 posted on 02/12/2007 12:27:35 PM PST by snowrip (Liberal? YOU HAVE NO RATIONAL ARGUMENT. Actually, you lack even a legitimate excuse.)
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To: Mr. Mojo

Hard labor is a PRIVILEGE in Sheriff Joe's jail.


186 posted on 02/12/2007 12:29:18 PM PST by ichabod1 ("Liberals read Karl Marx. Conservatives UNDERSTAND Karl Marx." Ronald Reagan)
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To: isthisnickcool

"If I'm wrong and it's very easy for 100% innocent people to be sent to prison please prove that. If a large number of people in prison are innocent then something needs to be done about that. So please, show me how I'm wrong."

Get your terms right, first of all.

"Prison" is for 1 year and a day. "Jail" is typically for 1 year or less.

Jails are where most rapes occur.

Second, the only "100% innocent" person I have ever heard of is the Christian Messiah, and I believe history records that he had a rather unfortunate experience with the criminal justice system.

For the rest of us, yes, it typically takes some infraction of some kind --- unpaid parking ticket or somesuch --- that creates a warrant and puts you in jail.

And yes, it is typically the nice fat staight-laced accoutant who squeals like a pig in jail for the partking ticket who is too often the victim of rape by real criminals.

Is homosexual sodomy the appropriate punishment for having a ticket check lost in the mail? In your world, I guess so.


187 posted on 02/12/2007 12:29:20 PM PST by MeanWestTexan (Kol Hakavod Lezahal)
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To: mpackard

noting that even Bush got hit with a DUI once.

driving 3 times after taking antihystemines COULD get you 3 DUI's btw ... that's hardly premeditated anything.


188 posted on 02/12/2007 12:29:27 PM PST by kawaii (Orthodox Christianity -- Proclaiming the Truth Since 33 A.D.)
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To: P-40; B-Chan

The problem is that if nothing is done to reform prisons to make them less safer, the liberals are going to demand that non-violent criminals not be incarcerated and they will get a lot of public support on the matter.

All of the research indicates that prison violence makes all prisoners (even the ones in there for non-violent crimes) more prone to violence after they are released.


189 posted on 02/12/2007 12:29:28 PM PST by wagglebee ("We are ready for the greatest achievements in the history of freedom." -- President Bush, 1/20/05)
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To: isthisnickcool
I think 75% --- of U.S. males will have been in jail at least once in their lives.

>>>>>>>Prove that.

Prove that he thinks it?

190 posted on 02/12/2007 12:29:55 PM PST by DreamsofPolycarp
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To: B-Chan

Certainly no one wants prison rape or any other assault to occur, but you lost a loved one to one of these victims, it is hard to work up sympathy for them.


191 posted on 02/12/2007 12:30:13 PM PST by LWalk18
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To: B-Chan

Certainly no one wants prison rape or any other assault to occur, but you lost a loved one to one of these victims, it is hard to work up sympathy for them.


192 posted on 02/12/2007 12:30:23 PM PST by LWalk18
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To: pissant
Well, if the inmates kill a child molester, then I'm more than fine with that.

Jeff Dahlmer was beaten to death by an inmate on "custodial duty" who had removed a weight bar from an exercise room. The whole thing happened while guards were having a smoke break. I believe the killer was already serving life for murder (Wisconsin has no death penalty, yet!) so it seems that even murderers have their standards.

Since Dahlmer had a life expectancy of maybe fifty more years and the cost of incarcerating a maximum security prisoner is about $35,000 a year, our janitor saved the Wisconsin taxpayer $1 3/4 million. I think we should chip in and buy him a carton of smokes or something.

Regards,
GtG

PS Child molesters are defiantly at the bottom of the prison food chain.

193 posted on 02/12/2007 12:30:58 PM PST by Gandalf_The_Gray (I live in my own little world, I like it 'cuz they know me here.)
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To: kinoxi

"He was sentenced for a DUI. That generally means minimum security."

Not true at all, it was his 3rd and in many states that is a Felony conviction that carries a year, or longer, in Prison. Not County Jail, Prison. With murders, rapists, sexual predators and the worst dregs of our society.


194 posted on 02/12/2007 12:30:58 PM PST by CSM (We're not losing our country, some are just throwing it away. - Sherri-D)
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To: John Williams

10 hours a day of hard labor would probably take some of the fight out of those rapists. Prosecuting them for crimes in the pen might be a good idea too.


195 posted on 02/12/2007 12:31:07 PM PST by JTHomes
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To: B-Chan

Note to self: Don't get 3 DUIs

Current Score:
DUI's 0


196 posted on 02/12/2007 12:31:22 PM PST by TC Rider (The United States Constitution © 1791. All Rights Reserved.)
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To: spunkets
No it wasn't a dumb thing to say. He gave an example of what happens. Note the words "very easy", refers to process, not quantity. Next time, don't be so stupid.

So? Most people in prison are not innocent. Judging by the statistics from the The Innocence Project you are correct. I think that those found innocent are owed some major bucks for their time in prison.

197 posted on 02/12/2007 12:31:40 PM PST by isthisnickcool (I own your children! ---RICK PERRY)
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To: B-Chan

I bet this is why Richard Hatch failed to pay his taxes so he could enjoy this type of prison life.


198 posted on 02/12/2007 12:32:49 PM PST by hodaka
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To: Gandalf_The_Gray

I'll send the guy a carton.


199 posted on 02/12/2007 12:33:38 PM PST by pissant
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To: CSM

In your neck of the woods it means one thing. The meaning is lost in translation from here.


200 posted on 02/12/2007 12:33:39 PM PST by kinoxi
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