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Sports, religion strange bedfellows (CHICAGO SPORTS "JOURNALIST" LAYS INTO INDY COACH TONY DUNGY)
Chicago Sun-Times ^ | February 11, 2007 | RICK TELANDER Sun-Times Columnist

Posted on 02/11/2007 7:48:24 AM PST by Chi-townChief

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To: Chi-townChief
It always has seemed peculiar and disconcerting to me that religious beliefs -- mainly fundamentalist Christian ones -- have been so closely aligned with football, especially at the highest levels.

"Separation of religion and sport!"
41 posted on 02/11/2007 8:43:58 AM PST by modhom
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To: All

Not surprisingly Naxi Rick has blocked emails.


42 posted on 02/11/2007 8:45:02 AM PST by dleecomeback07 (Pitchers and catchers report February 15th)
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To: Chi-townChief

I'm happy for the guy, and I think it's great that he's a devout Christian who's not afraid to give voice to his values. I've always liked the guy. I used to watch him play when he was the quarterback at the University of Minnesota. He's earned his success and the right to say what he wants.


43 posted on 02/11/2007 8:49:46 AM PST by ContraryMary (New Jersey -- Superfund cleanup capital of the U.S.A.)
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This is the same Rick Telender who said a few years ago that he was sick of seeing baseball players point to the sky etc before batting, pitching etc. And specifically moaned about Carlos Zambrano and Sammy Sosa and other spanish ones.

Funny thing about this KKK boy is that Kerry Wood and Mark Prior do as well. Last time I checked neither are hispanic.

And frankly if you played for the Cubs wouldn't you pray as well?


44 posted on 02/11/2007 8:50:18 AM PST by dleecomeback07 (Pitchers and catchers report February 15th)
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To: modhom

Most of our greatest athletes are devout christians.

I know a few Cubs that have told me that their faith helps them get through the tough times and doubts etc and through the hard work of even getting there entails.


45 posted on 02/11/2007 8:52:04 AM PST by dleecomeback07 (Pitchers and catchers report February 15th)
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To: indylindy
The writers'intolerence of Christianity is palpable. What we have here is an intolerent writer intolerent of tolerating the only faith which tolerates other faiths. Does Islam tolerate other faiths....it seems not with decapitations and stonings ubiquitous. Jesus said, 'turn the other cheek', love your enemies, do good to those who despitefully use you, if someone does wrong to you tolerate it 70 times 7.

I am remined of something I just read regarding Robert E. Lee on FR thread where Samuel Clemens was quoted as saying, "There is nothing harder to put up with than than the words of a good man."

46 posted on 02/11/2007 8:52:08 AM PST by Texas Songwriter
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To: Chi-townChief

A perfect example of a person falling through his own a**-hole and hanging himself!


47 posted on 02/11/2007 8:56:29 AM PST by F-117A (Mr. Ahtisaari, give Sápmi it's independence! Free the Sami!!!)
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To: Texas Songwriter

You said it just right. Both of these teams were coached by good men. He is only a petty little intolerant sports guy who is basically jealous of these men for their success using their Christian principles. I think these people don't understand the idea that, no, they are not saying they pray to make a win, but that they pray to give them strength, win or lose, and to hold to their principles to do it. Now, what is wrong with that?


48 posted on 02/11/2007 9:01:33 AM PST by dforest (Liberals love crisis, create crisis and then dwell on them.)
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To: dleecomeback07
This from Wikipedia entry for "Rick Telander" Click Here For Link To Wikipedia Listing:

"An editor has expressed a concern that the subject of the article does not satisfy the notability guideline ........ for inclusion on Wikipedia..."

Probably entered himself on Wikipedia, saw the editor's slapdown, and fired off this ridiculous, loathesome column as a desperate attempt to attain the requisite "notability." What a jackass.

49 posted on 02/11/2007 9:04:45 AM PST by Zebra
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To: panthermom

This jerk can voice his beliefs in the papers, let see what would happen if someone reported it from God's side, never would be allowed.


50 posted on 02/11/2007 9:05:46 AM PST by gulfcoast6
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To: Chi-townChief

Tony Dungy is a class act. He credits God for his success and leads by example. Where can we find 100,000 more like him?


51 posted on 02/11/2007 9:13:41 AM PST by Tax Government (Defeat Islamic imperialists, democrats and...)
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To: Chi-townChief
Another Keith Olberman in the making...

When are sportswriters going to learn to stay away from topics other than sports?

52 posted on 02/11/2007 9:19:35 AM PST by Night Hides Not (Chuck Hagel is the Republican Joe Biden!)
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To: dleecomeback07

I know it to be true. Perhaps I should have stuck a /sarc tag on there.

It's possible that sports writers feel they have to try to sound serious because their job is to write daily about an aspect of life that has absolutely no significance to anything, so they take after the usual targets.


53 posted on 02/11/2007 9:21:43 AM PST by modhom
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To: ridesthemiles

"I was more than pleased to see that he can speak proper English, and doesn't manage to use 5 ,7,or 11 "you knows" in his sentances."

Man, you have done it now. Don't you know that you are not supposed to tell colored people they are articulate?


54 posted on 02/11/2007 9:22:22 AM PST by thegreatmalcolmx (I came to love white people.)
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To: somemoreequalthanothers
Takes a special kind of a-hole to write such garbage and then block email replies. Here is my email to that special a-hole that was blocked:

Your article about Indianapolis Colts head football coach Tony Dungy is reprehensible. The sheer lack of class and respect for one of the more decent men and role models in America is stunning. You wrote that you are "troubled" by Tony Dungy's "insistence upon making proper coaching not just a matter of good heart but of religious zeal..." I am troubled that you cannot understand how a person's success in his/her chosen field might be inextricably tied to his/her faith and that such a person would publicly acknowledge that. There must be something better for you than writing.

55 posted on 02/11/2007 9:26:23 AM PST by Zebra
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To: Chi-townChief

The crazy thing is: BOTH teams had Christian coaches, players, but it wouldn't have mattered whom won (in God's eyes) he would still get the Glory by the journey, and they way it was played, the outcome only highlights the Coach (Dungy)'s faith, he has been a rock-solid Christian for years, even when loosing like the last couple (esp. last year when his son died..).

BTW I am very pleased as both a Christian and a Hoosier that we WON though!

I knew this kind of statement (Author's Rant) would appear eventually with the faith the Coach(es) and player(s) have shown in Superbowl '07! This author seems like an anti-Christian homosexualist and it just goes to reinforce to me that we as conservatives and Christians can not compromise with evil, and homosexuality (though not those whom are afflicted with it) is evil!


56 posted on 02/11/2007 9:26:43 AM PST by JSDude1 (www.pence08.com.)
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To: Chi-townChief

Well, it could be worse -- he could have given the credit to the sportswriters for cheering him on.


57 posted on 02/11/2007 9:28:41 AM PST by Old Professer (The critic writes with rapier pen, dips it twice, and writes again.)
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To: Chi-townChief
God, he said, was responsible for the Colts' 29-17 victory against the Bears.

He is bothered by this, yet people like him don't think twice when someone says that volcanoes or hurricanes or tsunamis are mother nature reacting to our polluting the planet.

58 posted on 02/11/2007 9:29:00 AM PST by feedback doctor (Mark Sanford - 2008)
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To: Chi-townChief

No quotes around this in the column:

God, he said, was responsible for the Colts' 29-17 victory against the Bears.

And he quoted Tony plenty.

No quotes around this in Post # 40:

The only problem I had with Dungy's statements was saying the Colts believed in God more than the Bears do.

Because, he did not say either.


59 posted on 02/11/2007 9:29:40 AM PST by John W
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To: technomage

Yes, they are scared to death. Scared that they just might be so wrong, and the born-again Christian is so right. They stand there like children with their fingers in their ears and screaming with their eyes shut. Problem is, they have such a hard time deluding themselves when they hear folks talking about the Lordship of our King, Jesus Christ. It would be funny if it wasn't so pitiful


60 posted on 02/11/2007 9:36:03 AM PST by SaintDismas (.)
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