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WA State Democrat Legislators bent on destroying the Initiative Process
email | Tim Eyman

Posted on 02/10/2007 2:49:40 PM PST by Iam1ru1-2

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1 posted on 02/10/2007 2:49:42 PM PST by Iam1ru1-2
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To: BADROTOFINGER

WA ping request


2 posted on 02/10/2007 2:50:42 PM PST by sionnsar (†trad-anglican.faithweb.com†|Iran Azadi| 5yst3m 0wn3d - it's N0t Y0ur5 (SONY) | UN: Useless Nations)
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To: sionnsar

Tim Eyman is about the only person that can save this state from itself.


3 posted on 02/10/2007 2:53:54 PM PST by IslandJeff (that for every right there is a duty, for every benefit an obligation)
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To: Iam1ru1-2

Democrats love to talk about "real democracy," which always seems to require the exclusion of those pesky voters.


4 posted on 02/10/2007 2:54:10 PM PST by denydenydeny ("We have always been, we are, and I hope that we always shall be detested in France"--Wellington)
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To: IslandJeff

wasn't he in sort of trouble a few years back? what was it?


5 posted on 02/10/2007 2:58:44 PM PST by bobby.223
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To: Iam1ru1-2

I guess waiting for the courts to continually slam conservative initiatives isn't good enough for the legislators. They just can't have the people voicing their opinions.


6 posted on 02/10/2007 2:59:56 PM PST by taxesareforever (Never forget Matt Maupin)
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To: bobby.223

MSM-manufactured scandal about his PDC filings. Roughly the equivalent of forgetting to put a stamp on a letter.


7 posted on 02/10/2007 3:00:13 PM PST by IslandJeff (that for every right there is a duty, for every benefit an obligation)
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To: taxesareforever

What else does one expect from the People's Republik of Washington?


8 posted on 02/10/2007 3:04:30 PM PST by PSYCHO-FREEP (" Judge not and thou shalt not be judged")
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To: Iam1ru1-2

Not surprising that this kind of communism comes from Baghdad Jim McDermott.


9 posted on 02/10/2007 3:07:43 PM PST by darkangel82 (Socialism is NOT an American value.)
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To: sionnsar
Is there a state legislator named Jim McDermott? The Jim McDermott I am familiar with is a federal congresscritter and can't sponsor state legislation. I'm confused.
10 posted on 02/10/2007 3:09:02 PM PST by Oorang (Tyranny thrives best where government need not fear the wrath of an armed people - Alex Kozinski)
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To: Oorang

There's a John McDermott out of the 34th - West Seattle.

D, of course.


11 posted on 02/10/2007 3:11:12 PM PST by IslandJeff (that for every right there is a duty, for every benefit an obligation)
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To: Iam1ru1-2; Maynerd; Bobsvainbabblings; moneypenny; Kaylee Frye; Clintonfatigued; wallcrawlr; ...

WA State Ping...JFK


12 posted on 02/10/2007 4:44:33 PM PST by BADROTOFINGER (Life sucks. Get a helmet.)
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To: PSYCHO-FREEP

I'd laugh but it's true.


13 posted on 02/10/2007 4:45:41 PM PST by taxesareforever (Never forget Matt Maupin)
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To: Iam1ru1-2

Have you seen the Climate Change Executive Order that Gregoire issued? It's Executive Order 07-02. That's why they want to get rid of the initiative process. The executive order is equivalent of the Kyoto treaty and includes some suspicious wording of forced unionization and plans to increase the gov't jobs to make up for non-green jobs. It puts restrictions on building and just a host of other regualations. Then there is the proposed income tax to support all this regulation.


14 posted on 02/10/2007 4:50:42 PM PST by Eva
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To: BADROTOFINGER; ecurbh; Ramius; RosieCotton

I guess I must be anti democracy, because despite the fun we've had with Time Eyman, we've had more bad law than good imposed on us by initiative, namely:

The ban on use of hounds, bait and trapping for hunting bear and cougar. Without the use of bait and hounds in particular, bear and cougar are extremely difficult to take in any numbers, and their numbers are continuing to grow. Wildlife management decisions and hunting regulation is far better done by the departments that manage these things than by urbanites in Seattle who think it's mean to hunt animals. "The People" in this case, are not qualified to know what good management is.

The smoking ban in all bars and restaurants. An initiative paid for, in large part, by Indian Casinos, of all sources, who, coincidentally, are not covered under the ban.

Those are just the two examples that continue to irk me.

Some things actually are better left to the representative process, that can hope to be better informed, with a broader perspective and interest than the snappy issue de jour.


15 posted on 02/10/2007 4:58:19 PM PST by HairOfTheDog
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To: bobby.223

Out of funds raised to support an initiaive he paid himself about $50K although he'd said he was working on it for free. There was a big stink.


16 posted on 02/10/2007 5:01:32 PM PST by edsheppa
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To: sionnsar

Does Washington state allow recalling legislators?


17 posted on 02/10/2007 5:31:10 PM PST by Clintonfatigued (If the GOP were to stop worshiping Free Trade as if it were a religion, they'd win every election)
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To: Baynative

What is a person to do? How about a peoples filibuster?


19 posted on 02/10/2007 6:03:57 PM PST by Jo Nuvark (Those who bless Israel will be blessed, those who curse Israel will be cursed. Gen 12:3)
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To: HairOfTheDog

Right. Shut the peoples will down and let the corrupt legislature tax us to death. I hope you will not gripe when they impose a state income tax on us to pay for all the demonrats tax increases, and pet projects which they only do for self agrandizement purposes only. By the by, who did you vote for governor?


20 posted on 02/10/2007 6:49:03 PM PST by Iam1ru1-2 (We not only have a lame duck president, we have a lame duck GOP party.)
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