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Shops in clear on guns
Post and Courier ^ | February 9, 2007 | NADINE PARKS

Posted on 02/09/2007 12:29:16 PM PST by Neil E. Wright

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To: Beagle8U
A politician who really wants to can always find a way to become born again.
41 posted on 02/09/2007 6:07:26 PM PST by libstripper
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To: Still Thinking
I was just saying I don't think doing the purchase that way would have qualified as a straw purchase.

Agreed in principal. Though in NC, I could not give her a handgun without her having the handgun purchase permit from the sheriff. (as an alternative, in NC if you have a CCW you are exempt from the permit process)

Additionally, being right in principle will not protect you from a zealous agent/prosecutor, ie Mike Nifong (who is in the next county). Being acquitted after spending a fortune in lawyer fees is a bittersweet victory.

42 posted on 02/09/2007 7:09:34 PM PST by TC Rider (The United States Constitution © 1791. All Rights Reserved.)
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To: TC Rider
Touche. How come the NC laws are so restrictive? Most states I believe allow transfers between individuals (gift or sale) with no paperwork whatever, which is why straw sales are attractive in the first place.
43 posted on 02/09/2007 8:53:00 PM PST by Still Thinking (Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?)
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To: Neil E. Wright

very good news!! Thank you Neil!


44 posted on 02/09/2007 10:10:48 PM PST by trussell
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To: kAcknor

Each state and the BATF should prosecute the PI's for making straw purchases.

Dealers should go after both the PI's and Bloomie.


45 posted on 02/09/2007 10:27:10 PM PST by mombrown1 (The Second Amendment is the reset button for the First.)
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To: Still Thinking
Touche. How come the NC laws are so restrictive? Most states I believe allow transfers between individuals (gift or sale) with no paperwork whatever, which is why straw sales are attractive in the first place.

I'm not sure, but willing to bet that it was historically intended to keep handguns out of the hands of 'coloreds'.

In years gone by it didn't seem to be strictly enforced on trades, etc. Now they have undercover cops at the gun shows watching for transfers in the parking lot as people wait to buy tickets to get in.

I do know that NC's CCW law was deeply influenced by the Michael Seagrove case in Durham. Where a homeowner backshot some kids running from his home, after they had broken into his garage.

On the up side, both the purchase permit, which can be bought in quantities of 5, and good for 5 years, and the CCW permit are 'shall issue'. It's a great convenience to be able to use the CCW card in lieu of the permit.

The purchase permit takes about a week to process, the CCW up to 90 days after taking the class, etc.

A long gun can be bought using the instant check system.

46 posted on 02/10/2007 4:22:19 AM PST by TC Rider (The United States Constitution © 1791. All Rights Reserved.)
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To: Sender
Clearly in that case the gun was for the man.

An obvious yet unprovable issue - as contrasted with the woman actually checking off the "I'm not buying this for someone else" box on the form, but not having it shortly thereafter. It's the latter who would be in far greater legal danger.

47 posted on 02/10/2007 4:38:37 AM PST by ctdonath2 (The color blue tastes like the square root of 0?)
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To: TC Rider

No doubt. I should have thought of that.


48 posted on 02/10/2007 7:41:10 AM PST by Still Thinking (Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?)
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To: Joe Brower

Michael Bloomberg and his band of thugs need to be prosecuted to the full extent of the law!


49 posted on 02/10/2007 7:46:16 AM PST by blackie (Be Well~Be Armed~Be Safe~Molon Labe!)
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To: ozzymandus
"Looks like your boys blew this one."

I don't support the locals messin' with federal law. Never have.

50 posted on 02/10/2007 7:54:59 AM PST by robertpaulsen
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To: TC Rider

TC, as I understand the law it is only a violation of the law if you knowingly purchase a gun for someone who is not
legally entitled to own one due to a felony conviction or arrest and conviction for domestic violence.


51 posted on 02/10/2007 8:13:06 AM PST by antisocial (Texas SCV - Deo Vindice)
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To: TC Rider

Most likely. After the civil war many of the southern states added clauses to the RKBA provision of their state constitutions to allow regulation (which often, as in Texas, meant banning) concealed carry. Here is the provision from the NC constitution.

“A well regulated militia being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed, and, as standing armies in time of peace are dangerous to liberty, they shall not be maintained, and the military should be kept under strict subordination to and governed by the civil power. Nothing herein shall justify the practice of carrying concealed weapons, or prevent the General Assembly from enacting penal statutes against that practice.” Article 1, Section 30.

52 posted on 02/10/2007 8:29:10 AM PST by El Gato ("The Second Amendment is the RESET button of the United States Constitution." -- Doug McKay)
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To: Fiddlstix

BUMP!


53 posted on 02/10/2007 12:53:18 PM PST by EdReform (The right of the people to keep and bear Arms shall not be infringed * NRA * JPFO * SAF * GOA *)
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