Posted on 02/07/2007 3:26:10 PM PST by rawhide
If a cop raids twenty innocent people, five low-level drug users, and a drug dealer, which will the cop get noticed for?
In some neighborhoods, cops could pick houses at random and probably have something resembling those odds. And sometimes it seems they do precisely that.
I agree with the first part of your statement, but a charge of murder? We should be charging the judge and Chief of Police also. Might as well throw in the mayor. They are all equally culpable. Keep crucifying cops, border patrol agents and the military rank and file and the only ones left who will want to serve will be thugs looking to serve themselves.
It is fascinating to watch the west commit suicide. God have mercy.
You sir, are an idiot. Or maybe you're a libertarian, which is someone with as much grounding in reality as your average communist.
The cops knew the warrant was issued based upon perjured testimony; their actions are thus not protected under any "good faith" rule. They had no right whatsoever to enter the dwelling, and could not reasonably have believed themselves to have such a right. They criminally entered the dwelling in a fashion that could foreseeably result in someone's death, and in fact did so.
How does that not constitute murder?
These poor cops should definitely get what Nifong should get, at least. Nifong perhaps ruined some lives but he didn't physically kill the Lacrosse players. The problem is law enforcement people who use their authority and resources for fun and games and for personal political advantage.
I reckon. She was killed during the commission of a felony, i.e juniors's possession of the drugs in the basement, unless junior is already dead in a police raid or gang shooting.
It was homicide by gross negligence at the very best and needs tobe prosecuted and punished as such at least in order to make police officers consider a little more closely what they are doing instead of going out on a shoot with just enough information to justify the recreational jaunt. The developments in this one indicate strongly that it was a recreational raid and the unexpected resistance got someone killed.
Some people are too dense to recognize obvious satire and irony unless it has flashing signs on it.
I have personally known cops with the attitude that there are no innocent people in a neighborhood by virtue of their presence in the neighborhood and who treat the idea of a raid in such a neighborhood as a sort of recreation. Twice in my life I have had to live in such neighborhoods for a short time, once in a respectable though low income enclave in a very bad district. In that southside neighborhood in St. Pete two of my neighbors at different times got raided massively and were dragged off to jail only to be released with apologies because the police didn't look closely at their addresses. They just knew that even if they got the wrong address they would get somebody who deserved to be got. One was an 81 y.o. white man where the police were expecting black men but they took him away anyhow. That one cost them because the old man put a large pack of medical bills on their doorstep. His heart attack didn't kill him, though.
What really wonders me is that it is mostly leftists who defend these raids unconditionally, though there are some putatively conservative FR types who do also, and these same leftists are the ones who equate police in general with NAZI stormtroopers.
It started that way. It continued that way and is still that wway. That "observation" of the house turns out to have been a fabrication and there was only 2 hours between the "information" and the warrant. These guys were out on a lark and got caught in a shoot. Perhaps they don't deserve murder convictions but they do deserve to have been shot to death by the old lady.
I don't know about Georgia in particular, but it's pretty common for self-defense laws to explicitly provide that a person who unjustifiably attacks another person forfeits any right to self-defense if that person retaliates.
The cops, having illegally broken into the woman's dwelling, were thus obligated to drop their weapons and hope for the best. They had no right to shoot the woman, ergo murder.
It will take at least two more posts for your meaning to get through to some people.
Gotta use those sarcasm tags..... :)
Felony murder - when a person is killed during the commission of a felony then it is considered felony murder.
The officers committed a felony by lying to the judge to obtain the search warrant. Since a person was killed, this constitutes felony murder.
You should what the news reports more closely. The informant says that he never said such a thing and that the cops approached him AFTER the shooting. The informant has worked for the feds and the altanta PD for 15 years.
Read the article - the cops made up the evidence to obtain the warrant.
Freepers unconditionally defend these raids far more than leftists do.
When I see several outrageous statements like that, with no sarcasm tag, I usually check the FReeper's posting history, to see if they really hold those views. Sadly, we have a few FReepers who really do think that way. I'm happy to report, flashbunny doesn't. She just has a compelling way of forcing people to look at (or turn away from) their own perversions. Sometimes it works. Usually it just goes over their heads.
Well, remember my 'source' is a newsbabe on Atlanta TV news. I didn't pay too close attention, and probably should have really watched more of the follow ups. I didn't pay too much attention because (living out of range in Suwanee) I just shrugged and said 'That's the City of Atlanta for ya'.
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