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Rudy on gun control: "You've got to REGULATE consistent with the Second Amendment"
FOX News ^ | Feb 6, 2007 | Hanity and Colmes

Posted on 02/07/2007 2:40:44 PM PST by Jim Robinson

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To: Politicalities
Did we really? And this was because the President has the power to unilaterally abrogate the Constitution?

It doesn't matter. Congress passed the law and Clinton signed it.

Which is why it is VITAL that we have a president who reaches for the veto stamp instead of his pen when a gun-control bill crosses his desk.

121 posted on 02/07/2007 3:21:13 PM PST by dirtboy (Duncan Hunter 08)
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To: JCEccles

What if Giuliani is the only person who can stop Hitliary?

Ed


122 posted on 02/07/2007 3:21:15 PM PST by Sir_Ed
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Threads like this seem to always motivate me to make a new gun purchase. I've been looking to add a 9mm Beretta PX4 Storm semiauto to my handgun collection. I think I'll take care of that tomorrow.


123 posted on 02/07/2007 3:21:18 PM PST by JCEccles
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To: MichiganConservative
Bigh4u2 must have forgotten that your natural rights are dependent upon the population of the state/country/kingdom/empire in which you live.

No, I was simply pointing out the "Wild West" argument is apples and oranges.
124 posted on 02/07/2007 3:21:41 PM PST by msnimje (You simply cannot be Christian and Pro-Abortion.)
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To: Jim Robinson
So if you're talking about a city like New York, a densely populated area like New York, I think it's appropriate. You might have different laws other places, and maybe a lot of this gets resolved based on different states, different communities making decisions. After all, we do have a federal system of government in which you have the ability to accomplish that.

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Wrong. FMCDH, Giuliani.

125 posted on 02/07/2007 3:21:47 PM PST by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: Jim Robinson
City Has Seized Almost 90,000 Guns Since 1994

FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE Date: Wednesday, August 1, 2001

"The Police Department's dramatic success in reducing crime is due in large part to its corresponding success in removing guns from City streets," the Mayor said. "More than 90,000 guns have been seized since 1994, and shootings have plummeted more than 74 percent.

The NYPD's gun seizure success is also reflected in the murder rate, which has plummeted 65 percent since 1994, and is down another 11 percent this year over last year. The NYPD has also ensured that thousands of guns can never be used to commit a crime by destroying them and putting the metal to good use. Now, another 3,000 guns have been taken out of circulation -- permanently."

126 posted on 02/07/2007 3:21:58 PM PST by Afronaut (Supporting Republican Liberals is the Undeniable End to Freedom)
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To: Sir_Ed

What if the moon is made of Gouda cheese?


127 posted on 02/07/2007 3:22:00 PM PST by JCEccles
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To: Sir_Ed
What if Giuliani is the only person who can stop Hitliary?

The Dems in 2004 voted for Kerry in the primaries because they thought he could win.

128 posted on 02/07/2007 3:22:04 PM PST by dirtboy (Duncan Hunter 08)
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To: dirtboy
>>>>However, the 14th extended the BOR to the states.

Yes sir!

Amendment XIV

Section 1. All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the state wherein they reside. No state shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any state deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.

129 posted on 02/07/2007 3:22:08 PM PST by Reagan Man (Conservatives don't vote for liberals.)
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To: Jim Robinson

I don't think he can recover from this. Was Hannity still making bedroom eyes at him after the interview.


130 posted on 02/07/2007 3:22:17 PM PST by pissant
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To: Jim Robinson
It has been proven that when the people can carry their arms, the crime rate drops. Rudi should have advocated everyone carrying guns, then the criminals would not know if you had one or not, and they would have thought twice about going after you.

No; Rudi is far too liberal for me. He'll not get my support.

131 posted on 02/07/2007 3:22:23 PM PST by Constitution1st (Never, never, never quit - Winston Churchill)
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To: tcostell

the gubmint that thinks it gives you your rights can take them all away.

no thanks, Rudy. you ain't 'my mayor' and that ain't 'my city'.


132 posted on 02/07/2007 3:22:40 PM PST by Rakkasan1 ((Illegal immigrants are just undocumented friends you haven't met yet!))
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To: Post-Neolithic
CFR kind of negates your point don't you think?

Noooo... CFR tells us that we elected the wrong legislators. The President should've vetoed it. Shame on him for not vetoing it. And I'm sure that many of GWB's newly-appointed federal judges will somewhere down the line be part of the chain of justice that finally smashes the unconstitutional garbage. But in the meantime, while we're stuck with it, blow a raspberry to GWB but flip the bird to the asshole politicians who wrote it and voted for it.

133 posted on 02/07/2007 3:22:41 PM PST by Politicalities (http://www.politicalities.com)
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To: Jim Robinson
Incrementally reducing INalienable rights is ALIENATING THEM..

Rudy is about as sharp as a bowling ball..

134 posted on 02/07/2007 3:23:02 PM PST by hosepipe (CAUTION: This propaganda is laced with hyperbole....)
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To: Jim Robinson
"The restrictions of it have to be reasonable and sensible."

The problem is that people like Rudy have very different notions of what is "reasonable and sensible" than I do. And his notions are wildly different from what Chuckie Shumer thinks is "reasonable and sensible".

Speaking for myself, I would like to abolish all federal gun-control laws established in the 20th Century.

And as far as "keeping guns out of the hands of criminals", my attitude is: if he's too dangerous to be allowed to own a gun, then he's too dangerous to be loose on the street

135 posted on 02/07/2007 3:23:19 PM PST by SauronOfMordor (Never try to teach a pig to sing -- it wastes your time and it annoys the pig)
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To: Jim Robinson

Yeah,thats going to rally the conservative base for ol'e rudy. Go soak your head rino.Anybody who thinks this cat is in anyway conservative is shrink wrapped!


136 posted on 02/07/2007 3:23:28 PM PST by HANG THE EXPENSE (Defeat liberalism, its the right thing to do for America.)
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To: Sir_Ed
"What if Giuliani is the only person who can stop Hitliary?"

The we have already lost.

137 posted on 02/07/2007 3:23:29 PM PST by Godebert
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To: Politicalities
Now, Rudy believes that the word regulated implies the Constitutionality of things such as the Brady Act. ... He's not trying to ignore or rewrite the Constitution ...

In your scenario, he'd be ignoring the "shall not be infringed" part. At this point, I'd really have to question his reading comprehension and his thinking. Maybe he's too emotion driven on this issue. Emotion-driven policies are bad. I don't want someone who can't be bothered to figure out what they actually meant by "regulated" or who is emotion-driven as president.

138 posted on 02/07/2007 3:23:43 PM PST by MichiganConservative (If you don't like rape, then don't rape anyone. Don't force your morals on others!)
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To: dirtboy

: )


139 posted on 02/07/2007 3:23:47 PM PST by stephenjohnbanker (Our troops will send all of the worlds terrorists to hell in a handbasket with no virgins!)
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To: Bigh4u2
So? Why should that be any different now?
And when did the law change?


This thread is about Rudy saying it should be regulated and I was simply commenting that it is regulated now.

Nobody is going to become President and push for or get congress to drop regulations on gun ownership when it comes to felons.
140 posted on 02/07/2007 3:24:18 PM PST by msnimje (You simply cannot be Christian and Pro-Abortion.)
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