'Baghdad Jane' Fonda Has It Wrong (Ed Koch on anti-war activists)

Newsmax.com ^ | Jan. 30, 2007 | Edward I. Koch

[Clintonfatigued]

You don't hear movie reviews at the Pentagon or at the Republican National Convention. Hollywood should not claim to be experts in public policy.

[EQAndyBuzz]

"You don't hear movie reviews at the Pentagon or at the Republican National Convention. Hollywood should not claim to be experts in public policy."

Nah. Just pass it around that their movies suck and you can't get paid to see them. They wind up as the lower box on the New Hollywood Squares.

[PGalt]

Thanks Ed Koch.

[TADSLOS]

Ed and Joe. Democrats I can stand proud with.

[Buck W.]

"...and Susan Sarandon and Tim Robbins - husband and wife..."

I thought that they were just enlightened cohabitants.

[Free ThinkerNY]

It's interesting to note that people like Koch and Joe Leiberman are so rare in the Liberal world. They perceive reality and their fellow Liberals live in a psychotic fantasy world.

[Free ThinkerNY]

They should share the same padded cell and wear his and her straight-jackets.

[AlphaOneAlpha]

As a Viet Nam combat vet, I have read much, reconciled much, and moved on to have a modestly successful managerial career and peaceful private life and now comfortable retirement.

That aside, there are but two human beings on this earth that I consider the scum of this earth....Jane Fonda and John Kerry. There is American servicemen blood all over their hands and absolutely no true remorse nor shame by either of them, then nor now,for the deaths that they encouraged and caused upon their countrymen.

They will rot in the hell that neither of them believes exists...and I trust they will be carried there by the ghosts of American servicemen, similar to the scenes in the movie Ghosts.

[Fudd Fan]

I love Ed Koch! Goodness knows I don't agree with a thing he believes on domestic and social issues, but like Lieberman he definitely gets the war on terror. And I didn't agree with him much when he was mayor but he sure was fun.

[Fudd Fan]

AMEN, Alpha. God bless you and thank you for your service to our country.

[SW6906]

Wow. Powerful words from Democrat Ed Koch......

[NickatNite2003]

I got some signs for you:

'DemoLiberals are not
worth protecting or saving.'

'DemoLiberals suffer
from Death Camp Envy'

'Democrats teach their
children to be suicidal
...if they don't kill
them first'

'DemoGenerates can't be
happy unless they are
slaves and being beaten
and killed in numbers'

'Giving weapons to Democrats
jus brings out their
Hitler & Stalin desire
to take away everybody
*elses* guns.'

'Hitler was a Leftie and
Pro DemoSocialist Workers Party'

[donna]

"Hanoi Jane," has now become "Baghdad Jane"

Our troops are in Baghdad.

It is better to say "Hanoi Jane," has now become "Jihad Jane"

[darkangel82]

Koch seems like a sensible guy, Lieberman is just another phony though.

[Miss Didi]

Thank you again, Mr. Mayor.

[TADSLOS]

Koch seems like a sensible guy, Lieberman is just another phony though.

"But again, I ask you: what will this resolution say to our soldiers? What will it say to our allies? And what will it say to our enemies?

We heard from General Petraeus during his confirmation hearing that war is a battle of wills. Our enemies believe that they are winning in Iraq today. They believe that they can outlast us; that, sooner or later, we will tire of this grinding conflict and go home. That is the lesson that Osama bin Laden took from our retreats from Lebanon and Somalia in the 1980s and 1990s. It is a belief at the core of the insurgency in Iraq, and at the core of radical Islam worldwide. And this resolution—by codifying our disunity, by disavowing the mission our troops are about to undertake—confirms our enemies’ belief in American weakness.

This resolution also sends a terrible message to our allies. I agree that we must hold the Iraqi government to account. That is exactly what the resolution Senator McCain and I have offered would do. But I ask you: Imagine for a moment that you are a Sunni or Shia politician in Baghdad who wants the violence to end—and ask yourself how the Warner-Levin resolution will affect your thinking, your calculations of risk, your willingness to stand against the forces of extremism. Every day, you are threatened by enemies who want nothing but to inflict the most brutal imaginable horrors on you and your loved ones. Will this resolution empower you, or will it undermine you? Will it make you feel safer, or will it make you feel you should hedge your bets, or go over to the extremists, or leave the country?

And finally, what is the message this resolution sends to our soldiers? I know that everyone here supports our troops—but actions have consequences, often unintended. When we send a message of irresolution, it does not support our troops. When we renounce their mission, it does not support our troops.

We heard recently in the Senate Armed Services Committee from General Jack Keane, who said of this resolution. “It’s just not helpful… What the enemy sees is an erosion of the political and moral will of the American people… Our soldiers are Americans first. They clearly understand there’s a political process in this country that they clearly support… But at the end of the day, they are going to go out and do a tough mission, and I certainly would like to see them supported in that mission as opposed to declaring non-support....”

Senator Joe Lieberman from the floor of the Senate debating against the non-binding resolution. That doesn't sound like a phony to me.

[darkangel82]

I take it back, then. But he's still a Democrat, and he still ran with Al Gore.

[TADSLOS]

But he's still a Democrat, and he still ran with Al Gore.

Yes he is and yes he did, but he demonstrates what being the loyal opposition and supporting our President and military during war is all about, despite his politics. In that respect he's more a man than any one of our spineless Republicrats.

[darkangel82]

I agree on that, and he is more on our side than the rinos are, although his politics are not mine.