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Texas Girls Will Get HPV Vaccine
News Observer ^ | 02/03/07 | Liz Austin Peterson

Posted on 02/05/2007 7:13:36 AM PST by Froufrou

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To: MeanWestTexan

The anti vaccine crowd is more resistant to reasoned discussion than the Greenpeace. While you mean well, its not worth the bandwidth.


161 posted on 02/05/2007 12:04:55 PM PST by Starwolf
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To: Froufrou
The egg heads believe that only virgins can be used to test their damn vaccine.

This is really Sodom and Gomorrah stuff.
162 posted on 02/05/2007 12:08:41 PM PST by perseid 67 (A bleeding heart does nothing but ruin the carpet.)
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To: perseid 67; Starwolf; DalcoTX

They don't want to say that males 'carry' the virus. They do get genital warts but not cervical cancer. Does that mean they need only 1.5 shots?


163 posted on 02/05/2007 12:10:48 PM PST by Froufrou
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To: perseid 67
The egg heads believe that only virgins can be used to test their damn vaccine.

That's not true. Most of the test subjects were sexually active. Several thousand went on to have babies. Read the ACIP report.

164 posted on 02/05/2007 12:16:12 PM PST by Caesar Soze
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To: Froufrou

Everyone is capable of carrying the virus. Men who have compromised immune systems or multiple exposures can develop penile or anal cancers. Women are more likely to develop cancer then men because of the impact HPV has on the female cervix. Since men don't have a cervix, they will not develop cervical cancer. However, they will develop genital warts as frequently as men do.


165 posted on 02/05/2007 12:17:20 PM PST by DalcoTX
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To: MamaTexan

"The epidemic-quaranteen and other powers of the Governor are not at issue here. Ahem. You're the one who brought them up in your previous post."

Your objection was that the Gov. was "practising medicine." I gave another example of "practising medicine" as you defined it, which are quaranteen powers.

Are you so slow you need me to show you you your own post?


166 posted on 02/05/2007 12:17:35 PM PST by MeanWestTexan (Kol Hakavod Lezahal)
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To: TommyDale

Perry has links to Merck.


167 posted on 02/05/2007 12:18:18 PM PST by ichabod1 ("Liberals read Karl Marx. Conservatives UNDERSTAND Karl Marx." Ronald Reagan)
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To: HoustonCurmudgeon

"How about letting us opt in rather than out? If not then why not mandate birth control, weight limits, hell why not a draft? The government is not smarter then I am about my family. The government is made up of fools, like that postal worker neighbor of mine. You and Perry are not conservative in my mind."

Because if it was optional, your insurance company would not pay for it, while they have to pay for mandated vaccines.

You must not be very conservative because you don't have a clue how business actually works.


168 posted on 02/05/2007 12:19:23 PM PST by MeanWestTexan (Kol Hakavod Lezahal)
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To: Froufrou

"About 30% of cervical cancers will not be prevented by the vaccine,. . .Too fast out of the gate!"

So 70% is not a good start?

Asprin does not cure 100% of headaches. Should we wait until we get a pill that cures 100% of headaches?

No medicine cure everything. This helps the overwhelming majority.


169 posted on 02/05/2007 12:22:49 PM PST by MeanWestTexan (Kol Hakavod Lezahal)
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To: Caesar Soze

Why isn't it approved for women over 26? It seems like women over 26 are much more sexually active than a 9 year old.

If it is not safe for someone that is over 26 why not?


170 posted on 02/05/2007 12:23:10 PM PST by luckystarmom
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To: MadIvan

No. Kinky wasn't a better choice. Texas conservatives were under no illusions about Gov. Goodhair. Like with W Bush in 2004, we chose the lesser of two evils. Or four evils in this case.


171 posted on 02/05/2007 12:23:29 PM PST by ichabod1 ("Liberals read Karl Marx. Conservatives UNDERSTAND Karl Marx." Ronald Reagan)
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To: perseid 67

"The egg heads believe that only virgins can be used to test their damn vaccine. This is really Sodom and Gomorrah stuff."

No, it's because 80% of college-age women already have HPV and at least 50% of college age men (it's harder to detect in men).

Basically, if your partner is not a virgin, the first time you have sex, you almost certainly catch this.

Hence why it's given so young.


172 posted on 02/05/2007 12:26:53 PM PST by MeanWestTexan (Kol Hakavod Lezahal)
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To: ichabod1

"Perry has links to Merck."

And Halliburton. I understand he and Cheny have a machine to control the weather, too. They used in in New Orleans to target the blacks.


173 posted on 02/05/2007 12:27:53 PM PST by MeanWestTexan (Kol Hakavod Lezahal)
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To: Caesar Soze
The implication an earlier poster made is that the vaccine test would be skewed if the vaccine were tested on sexually active women ,because once a woman is exposed to the virus the virus does not work.

Therefor ,this vaccine is being tested (sometimes forcibly) on virgins.
174 posted on 02/05/2007 12:29:02 PM PST by perseid 67 (A bleeding heart does nothing but ruin the carpet.)
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To: luckystarmom

"Why isn't it approved for women over 26?"

Because 80% of college age women already have the virus, so basically it does no good.

This is a vaccine (a prevative), not a drug.

I suppose an always-virginal 26-yr-old getting married to someone who had been previously married (or had a past) should get the shot.


175 posted on 02/05/2007 12:30:43 PM PST by MeanWestTexan (Kol Hakavod Lezahal)
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To: kittymyrib
Another thought...if this vaccine proves to be harmful to these girls later, will the state of Texas be liable for their injury or sterility?

No, the government, the doctor, and the manufacturer are all specifically shielded from liability for side effects from vaccines.

176 posted on 02/05/2007 12:30:53 PM PST by ichabod1 ("Liberals read Karl Marx. Conservatives UNDERSTAND Karl Marx." Ronald Reagan)
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To: perseid 67

"perseid 67
Since Jan 14, 2007"

Welcome to FR. What's your DU screen name?


177 posted on 02/05/2007 12:33:03 PM PST by MeanWestTexan (Kol Hakavod Lezahal)
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To: MeanWestTexan

There are too many things not known. How long does it last? Are boosters needed? Pelvic inflammatory disease as a side effect may be as bad as cervical cancer.

I didn't know until today that vaccines can produce very bad results.


178 posted on 02/05/2007 12:34:42 PM PST by Froufrou
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To: MeanWestTexan

Yeah, it's soo good they cranked it up again and tried to get the survivors in the Astrodome, but they missed.


179 posted on 02/05/2007 12:34:57 PM PST by ichabod1 ("Liberals read Karl Marx. Conservatives UNDERSTAND Karl Marx." Ronald Reagan)
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To: MeanWestTexan

Are you saying that 80% of college age women are not virgins?

I just seriously doubt that number.


180 posted on 02/05/2007 12:38:36 PM PST by luckystarmom
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